Blueprints, Sounds and Wasted Time

Blueprints

UPDATE: I know this is a hot topic, so have tried to clear up some confusion here.

Last week I mentioned what we envisioned for blueprints. I made some progress this week, so I’ll go into more detail. Blueprints will be stored in your Steam Inventory. You will be able to trade them.

Being able to trade sets the “IN-APP PURCHASES” alarm bell ringing in most people’s heads. Don’t worry. It set it off in mine at first, but it’s just a side effect of being a part of the Steam ecosystem. The intention isn’t for us to sell blueprints to you, the intention is to treat them like trading cards. If you get the same one twice, you can give it to a friend, or swap it for one you don’t have.

We imagine it working like this. You start playing Rust. You can craft a small number of things, you play, you have fun. You get a new blueprint in your inventory. You can now craft a shirt. You play more, you get another new blueprint. You can now craft trousers. Your friend starts playing, you craft him a shirt. He dies. He asks you for another shirt. You decide that you don’t want to keep doing this.. so you start a steam trade and give him the shirt blueprint. You play for a few more hours, you get another trousers blueprint. You sell it on the Steam Market for $0.03 – and you also sell two hats you got from playing TF2 for $0.12. With the $0.15 you buy a coat blueprint.

It’s important to us that there’s no losers in this situation. This is what the Steam Inventory system does. Everyone involved wins. Even when you look at the most exploitative situation, a guy spending hundreds of dollars to buy all the blueprints.. he’s still got to go in the game and get the resources to be able to craft the items. And even then you could kill him with a rock and take all the stuff he’s made.

So that’s what we have planned. Valve are still beta’ing the inventory service, but they expect it to be ready quite soon. Once that’s done we’ll switch it on and see what happens. We also appreciate that not every server wants people taking their ‘global’ blueprints with them so will make sure they can choose global/local inventories.

Stone Hatchett

Scott’s new improved stone hatchet model went in this week.

Gun Sounds

There was an issue with gun sounds not fading based on distance. Internally there’s a mixup between sounds/effects created by the viewmodel, and effects visible on the 3rd person model. This is something I want to work on to make more unified and less error prone in the future.

For now I made a quick fix that will change the sound to 2D if it was created by your viewmodel, and your viewmodel is visible. If not it will create a 3d positional sound. As a bonus I made it lower the pitch based on distance if the sound is a gunshot – to try to replicate that bassy distance gun-shot sound. There’s more we can do in this area to make shit cooler.

Asset Bundles

I had a fight with asset bundles this week. Sometimes when you’re using Unity it’s awesome, you can feel the progress you’re making rushing past your head like you’re travelling 200 miles per hour. Other times it feels like you’re walking around a haunted house in pitch blackness, and every corner you turn you get punched in the face by a big fucking witch.

So the issue I was trying to quickly solve here was our build times. We used to have about a 10 minute build time. This mean that when we committed code 15 minutes later it was on Steam for osx, linux and windows. This is awesome when you’re iterating quickly – you can go through bug reports and be like “try now”, and they can try and see instant results. Lately, after changing to Unity5, and especially after changing to Speed Trees, our build times have been hitting an hour. Which makes iterating a lot slower, it makes our whole development a lot less dynamic.

Asset Bundles basically would mean putting the majority of content in these big bundle files. In theory that means that we wouldn’t include content with the 7 different builds we do, which would mean they would compile in less than a minute each. We would also be able to put out 1.3gb of textures in its own bundle, which we wouldn’t have to ship with the server. Plus we want to enable people to create their own maps etc, and asset bundles are the way to do this in Unity.. so it’s work that would need to be done anyway.

But after a day of work that didn’t exactly work out. It seems that the asset bundles between opengl and directx are incompatible, and between 64bit and 32bit are incompatible. Which reduces the usefulness of them significantly.

So I ended up spending another half a day breaking our build process up in jenkins, so instead of building each platform linearly – one after the other, it now builds them all simultaneously. This brings our build time from an hour to around 15 minutes. Which is much better.

None of this changes the game at all. I just wanted to give you guys a feel for what goes on behind the scenes, the kind of day to day stuff we have to do.

Footstep Sounds

I added footstep sounds for more ground materials. Things like sand, snow, wood, stone, dirt. These sounds aren’t perfect yet. In fact the sand sound is fucking terrible. But it’s better than concrete sounds everywhere.

Building Fixes

I fixed a few things with building. I fixed being able to place the sleeping bag inside of walls, and therefore be able to spawn your way into someones base. I fixed not being able to climb through windows. I fixed a number of broken materials.. especially on the (still very much placeholder) transition animations. I fixed being able to place railings across doorways.

We haven’t updated much to do with the building system because we’re still figuring out the right direction for upgrades. Particularly whether the geometry should change much, or at all, or just the texture/material. If the geometry stays the same but just the texture changes, things get very very easy for us. This is likely the way things will go at first – but we’ll probably keep the option of going back and changing geometry if we want to.

Bandage Animation

Goosey and Xavier have been experimenting with the bandage. The idea is that you’ll wrap the bandage around your head

Summary

I think this might be our lowest content update ever. The fact is we’ve been spending a lot of time fighting with Unity this week. And we’re still fighting – that’s why there hasn’t been an update released for a few days. We don’t know whether this is the new Unity beta, or something we’re doing in the code, or the new build process, but we’re banging away trying things until it works.

It might just be that this is over-cautious error reporting and we don’t really have anything to worry about. But I’d rather worry about it and confirm that it’s meaningless than put a patch out that stops everyone from playing.

Next week.. bug fixes. Bug fixes. Some re-writes and refactoring to make the code easier to use. If the Inventory stuff is released we’ll make that live too.

Comments

Comments

  1.  
      Egee

    MciAlan Pickstar can i watch it ?

  2.  
      wallyrrr

    StigChristensen wallyrrr suck clit

  3.  
      wallyrrr

    A bunch of stupid cuntie shit here, bitches…
    Step up, devs! Eat my sack!

  4.  
      MciAlan

    Pickstar You seem nice! Wanna build a snowman?

  5.  
      oddey

    DONT like this blueprint idea! realy like the idea in legacy, kill for blueprint, more playtime to get one? not everyone can spend hours a day playing. and why should we buy somethin when we already bought the game? i can gladly pay a higher fee for your game improvments, but not that everyone can buy theyr own blueprint, that just ruin the game, we want to have a goal to earn blueprints, not buy them!

  6.  
      JdoggBurger

    Hey, check out my funny Rust bandit video!
    Thanks!

  7.  
      Pickstar

    Stupid fucking piece of shit idea, the blueprints in the inventory thing. Whoever thought it up is a dumb fuck and deserve to get fired

  8.  
      juks

    Where is the 31st devblog ?

  9.  
      abj1998

    This blueprint idea is trash I talked to all my friends who own Rust about this and they all despise it. I also asked about 30 people on your official Washington server and not ONE person said they liked it, yep not a single person said a single good thing about it. I seriously thought that Facepunch would be listening to the players opinions that probably have more playtime on the game then yourselves. I don’t really know how I feel about Rust anymore I used to defend this game with everything. I even convinced 5 of my friends to buy it, but I don’t even see the “new” Rust as a step forward it feels like ten steps backwards from legacy. I’ve had over 100 hours of playtime in legacy and me and my friends had loads of fun, but with legacy everything is just so boring with building houses being pointless because you’ll have to carry around like 15 stupid keys (everyone liked the passcode system way better) and then just die from the horribly laggy new pvp. I really hope Garry starts to listen to the fans or because I really like Rust, and it would be a shame if it was ruined any further.

  10.  
      Scheich

    thats a lot of crashes while trying  to join a server (251 and 85 ppl) doesnt look good

  11.  
      RasmusFink

    Seriously why have you ruined rust ? the game is basically all about hitting walls either upgrading or destroying :( 

    here
    are all the things that really needs fixing for rust becoming viable
    for many ppl again this is not to insult but its true. 

    1
    bring back old doors wood and metal with codes much better system
    really the key thing is insanely annoying and is a very bad game
    mechanic compared to the quick code door which only gave you a slim
    chance of entry if you were an enemy which is a fun game mechanic also
    you had to be extra pro to get out or else you would have your last
    stand great legacy fun. 

    2 the wall level system is
    really a big failure too all the time now you are just hitting walls
    plain and simple way to much time go with that. the old system where you
    had to embark on a mission to aquire c4 was a much more fun way to this
    cause then you have to run around the map and face players doing the
    same constantly but to really make this fun again the resources also
    have to be much more scarce just like in the legacy version. the walls
    should not be able to be hit down with any hand weapons period ONLY
    EXPLOSIVES.

    3 : water debuff shouldent work during day

    4 : bow needs to be as in legacy much more viable 

    5: places to loot blueprints so ppl meet each other more often 

    6: bring back shelters as start up houses

    7:
    reduce resource availibilty to bring about more fighting ( I CANT
    STRESS THIS ENOUGH REALLY NEED FIXING YOU GET WAY TOO MUCH WOOD FROM
    SMALL TREES)

    DONT CHOOSE REALISM OVER GAMEPLAY IT WILL NEVER WORK!

    if some awesome admin with programming skills sees this please make a mod or something we need rust to be playable again

    also fix the bug when you log in and cant wake up please

    I AGREE 100% guy lets bring back fun rust, am i the only 1 with a bugged server list in legacy ? i can only join the same russian server no matter what i pick :(

  12.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    Holy shit over 1000 comments!!! This is awesome.

  13.  
      Pongard

    Where is the next devblog? I hope it announces that you realized no one likes the blueprint idea. 

    Maybe it would work with ingame currency, which would be cool (which CANNOT be bought with real money)

  14.  
      patrik64freeman

    Please a whaiting for the next devblog 31 are you still fighting with Unity

  15.  
      programit

    A couple of minor, or not so minor suggestions and thoughts.
    How is that a nude person can carry guns, ammo, wood etc. I hate to think where they’re storing this stuff.  Why not show when people are carrying weapons etc. Rifle on the back, backpacks, holster etc.  It seems a bit ridiculous that someone can appear naked and suddenly pull out rifles and military gear! 
    I also noted that many items aren’t stackable like meat, keys, etc. It seems a bit absurd that a wooden storage box can only hold 5 or 6 small items. A person can carry countless thousand wood, rocks etc but not too many keys? Or food etc.
    On the idea of keys then why not make them colour coded or numbered etc to identify them. Also you should be able to unlock a door from the inside at least without a key. Many times a player dies and respawns inside a locked base.
    Personally I thin the shop idea where people can buy blueprints is not suitable for a survival game. Need something then just buy it! Those people that play endlessly will accumulate all the treasured BP and simply start off with everything, while newbies start with nothing. Even if its just BP’s it will me that someone can simply start playing Rust, buy appropriate BP’s for the high end gear and simply craft them. No skill in that!
    Last but not least, how about a mapping system where you slowly uncover the map as you explore etc.  Many a time you simply can’t find your base etc if you wander too far away.

  16.  
      swarfly

    where is the new devblog? It’s Saturday now…

  17.  
      dogeeee

    wheres the update???? woof 

    I love this game and the updates always make me happy.

    Because I thrive off the the bitching and moaning from the community….

    It soothes my soul.

  18.  
      Randomface10

    I don’t mind where they are taking the new Rust, but there is some issues with how it works currently. I think that walls are a huge pain right now, i don’t mind the upgrading process but the breaking down of walls is really frustrating… if you have stone walls 2 people can come with a stone hatchet and get in your base in an instant. My idea to solve this is to make the walls, based on their materials, have a required tool to break it, wood would be a hatchet or something and stone would be a pickaxe and metal walls would allow for explosive to be put in the game again.
    Another issue is if you have keys, you can easily lose track of which key does what. As a solution I would think some sort of naming thing for the keys but even then i’m not really sold on keys, good idea for starting houses but i just don’t think its the best option.
    Also a issue that I’ve found is that people are forgetting to level up their foundations and are building high tier walls on top of them.. and the issue being that you can break into peoples houses via their foundations. I am unsure if this is intentional or a bug.

    not too sure if i’m 100% happy with the blueprints but i’m open to giving them a go but in all honesty i don’t see other people liking it
    Even with these issues i have been really enjoying the new rust.. it just needs a bit of balancing with how much resources you can get from one deposit and the amount you use on items but overall I’ve been having fun.

  19.  
      SirXeroX

    wheres the devblog 31? and that blueprint idea sucks

  20.  
      ThatsKawaii

    Did he get scared after seeing how bad the community reacted to his blueprint idea? 

    Also, 1000

  21.  
      MalteNuchelHeggenhougen

    Seriously why have you ruined rust ? the game is basically all about hitting walls either upgrading or destroying :( 

    here are all the things that really needs fixing for rust becoming viable for many ppl again this is not to insult but its true. 

    1 bring back old doors wood and metal with codes much better system really the key thing is insanely annoying and is a very bad game mechanic compared to the quick code door which only gave you a slim chance of entry if you were an enemy which is a fun game mechanic also you had to be extra pro to get out or else you would have your last stand great legacy fun. 

    2 the wall level system is really a big failure too all the time now you are just hitting walls plain and simple way to much time go with that. the old system where you had to embark on a mission to aquire c4 was a much more fun way to this cause then you have to run around the map and face players doing the same constantly but to really make this fun again the resources also have to be much more scarce just like in the legacy version. the walls should not be able to be hit down with any hand weapons period ONLY EXPLOSIVES.

    3 : water debuff shouldent work during day

    4 : bow needs to be as in legacy much more viable 

    5: places to loot blueprints so ppl meet each other more often 

    6: bring back shelters as start up houses

    7: reduce resource availibilty to bring about more fighting ( I CANT STRESS THIS ENOUGH REALLY NEED FIXING YOU GET WAY TOO MUCH WOOD FROM SMALL TREES)

    DONT CHOOSE REALISM OVER GAMEPLAY IT WILL NEVER WORK!

    if some awesome admin with programming skills sees this please make a mod or something we need rust to be playable again

    also fix the bug when you log in and cant wake up please

  22.  
      TheAmazingBluntMan

    Hoping for a cool new update. I love watching this game grow! Its getting really good.

  23.  
      beoelf

    new update today?

  24.  
      GytisDobrovolskis

    Plumis they change stuff based on what peaple say sometimes . so they might change the map after some time or maby ull be able to choose or whatever . they just added the map dont expect it to be perfect already

  25.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    butthe4d Maybe. I dont think so.

  26.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    ToyCop It wont be a deal breaker

  27.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    Jcsjacob War Wolf Jack It isnt going to be pay2win. Its not

  28.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    PlzListenToMe Please dont say things like this

  29.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    GT4tube edmundos99 What?

  30.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    06unique06 Soon f2 will work again

  31.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    BringMeMyCoffee ChuckoMay No hes not

  32.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    Leignheart almond_stash ChuckoMay Its not finished…

  33.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    bioclone_ax45 I lie this idea

  34.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    tRUSTinrocks Yep like tf2

  35.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    ToyCop I wont be! I hope…

  36.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    tRUSTinrocks I like some trolls. They bring a fresh taste to rust

  37.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    PlzListenToMe It will work!

  38.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    RustRage I also want 1000 comments!

  39.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    Please I want this to have over 1000 comments :'(

  40.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    Come on put your ideas out!

  41.  
      NathanJones4

    MakarovGraal No animals? have you played experimental you fuck?

  42.  
      HolyCrapMaker

    Plumis HolyCrapMaker So you think my answer wasn’t good enough? Well seems like I somehow made you mad because you started using offensive language. Anyways seems like you are two faced when it comes to Rust. Back in devblog 21 and 15 you commented saying how great they are doing with the experimental branch. I know that by checking the livefyre profile you have so you can’t say that i am making stuff up. My question is: what happend during the 9 updates that made you so mad at the game? My guess would be you decided to stay with the legacy version while the game moved on. Other than that, I would like to say that you seem to have a problem with game being in alpha. I do not understand whats bad with that, even if it would stay in alpha for 2 entire years, That would just show how dedicated Garry is at making his game the best. No game was made quickly and ended up great. Perfection comes with time. Also I would like to point out that just because a clan moved on, you can’t find another one instead.  You also said that “people like you ruined the game”, I would like to say that Garry never liked KOS like he pointed out in a few updates, so you, using the kill or die logic never really understood the point of the game-teamwork.
    Overall, i would like to say that you are right with me not being the type of player that is willing to take 2 hours out of his day to break a wall for loot. I do indeed play 3 survival games from time to time but atleast i play them for fun instead of tryingto becoming the best at them.

  43.  
      MrMoustacheLive

    I can’t wait to see the new shitty ideas they had this week!

  44.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    Just post the new devblog Garry!! This week aint gonna have anything cool so we can get that out of the way…

  45.  
      MakarovGraal

    We just asked for having less hackers and more updates in legacy. That was too much? Now legacy still has hackers. The new rust is just bugs, no animals, no blueprints, no m4, no automatic shotguns, and a bunch of glitches.

  46.  
      edgorham

    IMHO I believe the beta is going in the right direction create a solid foundation and build on that. That is what i see going on. i am looking forward to content being added on but I am patient and I know it will be added when the time is right so I say thanks to the Dervs and keep up the good work.

  47.  
      edgorham

    Plumis you keep saying this is a game it isn’t Its a prebeta and if it doesn’t meet you to your expectation then go somewhere else like back to the “Beta Legacy Rust ” and stay there

  48.  
      Plumis

    HolyCrapMaker Plumis This supposed to be an answer? You like animals and building house kid? Go play minecraft . Keep waiting for updates , like the trello bullshit . It seems you have no idea what rust was. And for your 4rth answer.. Yes i am a lonewolf now, my clan got bored this kid-attraction that rust became. It used to be kill or die..now its blow kisses. People like you ruined the game. 
    See you in 2 years when it ll be still alpha. 
    And overall, to say rust is the best game of its kind you have no idea about survival games. You are just a pathetic player who plays couple of games and you think you played them all. Ask people with experience in games kiddo…Dont listen to ur mind, its kind of stupid

  49.  
      MasterHumus

    DatoGoglidze Yeah and I would also avoid steam inventory and instead just make an ingame account inventory where you have all your blueprints to trade ingame instead of having to exiting the game and going through the tedious process of finding the thing in the steam inventory, requesting for trade, accepting the trade, opening the game up again and then be able to make the item.

  50.  
      HolyCrapMaker

    Plumis Well it seems like you have no idea how to play rust at all…
    1- This is a early access game and you seem to be forgeting that.
    2-He removed zombies because he didn’t want this to be a dayz clone (what you would have known if you followed from day 1). He then added wolfs and bears that had the same purpose and didn’t change the game at all.

    3-legacy was never removed. You can access it by choosing it during the startup. Garry simply wanted to make the transition that would have happend no matter what.
    4-If you are a lonewolf and dont know how to play the game at all it does take  1-2 hours to build a house. I would suggest getting friends.
    5-I’ll repeat myself by saying this is a early access game and you agreed that by buying it you will understand it will not be finished project and have bugs.
    6-If you spend 2 hours breaking walls you should think about spending more time outside and not raging.
    7-Then dont swim. Simple as that. For the third time i’ll say this is a early access game and it will have bugs.
    8-Never had a problem with animals myself. No idea what you are talking about here.
    9-Why would you not want a big map? IMO in legacy people lived too close.
    10-Have you heard about community updates? Thats a thing too. You have no right to talk about garry not giving people what they want.
    Overall i would like to say that Rust it the best game of its kind right now. Have you seen dayz sa? Now thats a game that isn’t delivering.

  51.  
      Plumis

    Yeah gary nice work…. HITTING WALLS WITH HAMMER IS REALLY STUPID FFS… You removed zombies on legacy and you ruined legacy…You removed legacy and you ruined rust. 
    I am playing rust from day 1. My reviews for this game was positive. Now i ll change my review.

    CONS of new Rust.
     – takes 1-2 hours (minimum) to build and reinforce your house. Invaders can smash through walls with an axe…
     – You get some poor Gameplay..Actually not gameplay at all. Build house -> Build weapons -> Make Clothes -> Kill/Raid – > Sleep ( because you got bored ) -> Wake up raided .
     – Raiding houses : Pick axe -> Hit axe on wall -> keep hitting for 2 hours -> break the wall -> Get nothing valuable -> Rage quit -> Uninstall Rust.
     – Water/ Sea : find water -> Try to swim for 3 secs -> Die ( yes after you get off water you die in 1 min or left with 11 hp )
     – Animals : no where to be found. And if you find one the cloths that gives you is not enough for sleeping bag.
     – Useless space! OMG ! who need such huge map?? Have you seen the publicity of the servers?? 
     – NOW you want to earn blueprints through Steam. This sounds good! BUT ITS NOT! YOUR GAME IS FALLING APART! You should change management and ASK the players what they want! 
    So many of you will say that i am a troll, that i am a h8er, that i have to wait or that i should stop playing the game or play legacy (which i am) . These persons havent played Legacy enough to know what a great game it was (except hackers). 
    In the other hand, many will agree with me, so for those people i have one thing to please, stop playing the game if you havent, lets show gary that this game was better and now its not.

    Thank you.

  52.  
      TengizIK

    вот уже месяц не могу поиграть в игру вылетает ошибка как можно отправить файлы ошибки вам?

  53.  
      millen44

    Now I have reservations on the trading card system as they have no sense of achievement or progress. If you were to incorporate crafting leveling for example the more you craft the more you can craft. this gives a sense of progress. But as this is rust all progress is lost on death so you have VIP’s essentially that communities will protect for their skills. this makes hostages viable etc and would really open up dynamic and creative play.

  54.  
      DerekNewellEstes

    I don’t know if this has been touched on, but I’m having trouble placing objects such as storage boxes and lanterns. I don’t know why, but nothing I do will allow the objects to be placed! I might just need to leave it alone for now. Weird this is, I can still build buildings, but I can’t place objects.

  55.  
      GrymThor

    Keep up the Good work  Garry and Co. You’re getting there.

  56.  
      ScarfaceCapone

    RustRage

    How many of these 1000 comments would be useful?

  57.  
      RustRage

    Can we Make 1000 comments?!? Like if you want big titties in Rust!

  58.  
      Sneak100

    I got tha same problem the game  starts to connect and than the game shuts down right at the last part were you spawn

  59.  
      DatoGoglidze

    DONT DO THAT GARRY!!! DONT MAKE BUY/SELL !!! Inventory and Trade is good, BUT NO MARKET!!!

  60.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    Is the forest bug fixed?

  61.  
      bollekes

    JonathanBugeja got tha same problem starts to connect en than the geme shuts down

  62.  
      JonathanBugeja

    hello can u guys play rust today ? or is it my problem?

  63.  
      victorpalomocastro

    pls Release the source code of legacy!

  64.  
      hachempvz

    Leignheart hachempvz Ramztein Mushrooomizer OK , so , i can drop the C4 blueprint while playing and get it for free , so i can get it without paying -> i don’t have to pay to get it -> not pay2win , it’s payIfLazy

  65.  
      wallaceroets

    TDEANT Why would Garry introduce something that takes out the core of the game? Well he wont, so you are right, these will be variants on stuff you allready learned per server. i.e. You will not be able to craft C4 from the get go, you could perhaps change the sound or colour of the bang your C4 makes etc, but you will NOT be able to craft it unless you know it for THAT server (assumign C4 is going to make it’s way back). Can you imagine if you start of with C4, no one will ever play this game. People are insulting Garry’s intellect by thinking that is what is meant by this.

    I think this is awesome, You want your team to be the red team, well let’s give them all the red variant, and the blue team the blue variant. They will however first needs to farm THAT server they are on to get the server side blue print before they can craft the server side blue print item it in their colour of choice.

    As you can see it bugs me that people think clever individuals working at facepunch would do something SO stupid like give people everything, making the fame utterly useless and no fun to play.

  66.  
      wallaceroets

    TaylorMarsh Holy shit, another person that can read: http://playrust.com/devblog-30/?hubRefSrc=permalink#lf-content=97870778:226351091 I urge you to read what he said.

  67.  
      wallaceroets

    TaylorMarsh Perhaps if I could rephrase what Garry meant when he said “You’d need to have the server blueprint to be able to build the global blueprint variant”, This means, that if you DO get a rocket launcher variant blue print, it is useless until you learn the rocket launcher blueprint for THAT server you are playing on. So rich kids will be able to make the rocket launcher only AFTER they got the actual server side rocket launcher blue print, for THAT server, (i.e. they join another server, they wont be able to craft it, exactly the way it is now).
    Simplest I can explain it: Rust would be exactly the same it is now, except you can change the colour of your shirt  you craft once you get the shirt blueprint for the server you play on. That colour part you can traade with others if you allready have it.

    Source: this blog (which points to this thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/2jle2z/so_do_you_like_the_steam_inventory_idea_or_not/)

  68.  
      JdoggBurger

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    Thanks!

  69.  
      Leignheart

    ChristianSparks Just so you understand, people can complain all they want to, and so far the only person simply crying is you. The other people you refer to as “crying” actually have real complaints, where as you are complaining about complaining which makes no sense. If you want to debate people who you think are wrong then you go do that, but unless you actually debate people instead of just complaining about them complaining then that makes you ignorant. No offense, i’m telling you this to better yourself. And also, video games stopped being “just” video games a long time ago, these games now cost millions of dollars, (AAA Games) and can actually sink an entire company if it goes wrong. And also the mentality of “it’s just a… whatever” is also ignorant as well, because what is less important to you could be very important to someone else, and vice versa, so who the hell are you to tell someone else what is and is not important? Life lessons for you bro.

  70.  
      Leignheart

    hachempvz Ramztein Mushrooomizer He never said anything about cosmetics only. And also he did say it was like pay to win because he said worst case scenario is someone spends hundreds of dollars but then he still has to get the materials to craft the stuff from his blueprints. That is what garry said, and that is definitely pay to win. Also he originally wrote than sneakily edited that the c4 blueprint was buyable

  71.  
      Leignheart

    mbarnett25 If what you say is true, could you post a link to that please? thanks.

  72.  
      Leignheart

    mbarnett25 rustergroovie You know what? Hitler and Joseph Stalin and many other dictator murdering scumbags also believed that the only opinions that should be heard were from their fans as well. It is very unamerican to suggest only fan’s of something should have their opinion be heard.

  73.  
      Leignheart

    oldtoast1234 edmundos99 Do you even use logic? How will buying blueprints make things harder for people who purchase? You do not even use logic, case and point, 

    old rust, take many hours to find blueprint, then much time to craft item in blueprint.

    new rust, buy blueprint and have c4 at start of game, gather materials for c4 and blow up the other peoples base before they even find the c4 blueprint. yeah the new system totally makes it harder. Dear god I hope your a child and not an adult.

  74.  
      Leignheart

    ChuckoMay Announcing how much you’re willing to pay to developers is not the smartest idea.

  75.  
      Leignheart

    almond_stash ChuckoMay Yeah it doesn’t take long  to build anything actually at all, even c4 was easy if you had more than 1 person going and farming. So your being disingenuous when you say “it will still take time to craft something”.

  76.  
      Leignheart

    ChuckoMay Agreed, nobody cares if they do that with cosmetics, but these dev’s want to do it with c4. I mean what a spit in the face to rust players.

  77.  
      Leignheart

    Edward7089 Melkespann Edward7089, Garry himself said people can pay hundreds of dollars on blueprints, that means extreme advantage, extreme advantage means win, win by buying all the good blueprints, means pay to win, pay to win means fail. You are either very confused on what garry said and are naive, or are dishonest. And if you truly believe the devs are not making money on this, then you are foolish. 1st this system is unnecessary, it was not needed, the old way worked for everybody and made everyone equal, so it was the epitome of unnecessary, So why would they change it? Profit. They either will make money by the trades themselves, or have made a deal with valve for making a lucrative trading system for them. Either way you better believe they are getting something out of this.

  78.  
      Leignheart

    edmundos99 oldtoast1234 To be fair edmundos, you really should not make fun of persons english. Why? Because you have no idea what their background is, so for all you know this person could be 12 and has not take one english class whatsoever, he could also be a foreigner, or just a person typing on smartphone and auto correct kicks in. About the only time a person should be criticized is when spelling and grammar actually count, such as essays, job applications, dissertations, etc… but not comment sections of video game blogs. It is almost never okay to put someone down.

  79.  
      Leignheart

    oldtoast1234 Oldtoast1234, If you truly believe the dev’s will get nothing out of this deal with blueprint trading, then you are insane or have not devoted one iota of thought about the issue. This is why, the blue print layout in legacy rust worked, and worked well for people, it could have been tweaked a little bit but it worked very well. So that means there was no logical reason whatsoever to change it to this steam trading, except for………………….. PROFIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  80.  
      Leignheart

    Edward7089 Melkespann Edward, to be fair, you really have no right to ask someone not to complain. If a person wants to complain about the game in every devblog that person has the right to. However you yourself, can certainly take issue and debate his complaints in every devblog. That’s called freedom. Wanting to keep someone from speaking their whether what they said is right or not, is called, tyranny.

  81.  
      Leignheart

    Bob1955 Come on Bob, you cannot say stuff like that and expect anyone to listen to you.

  82.  
      Leignheart

    ThomasvanderLinden BorgMorgan If you are saying so what to someone being able to instantly have the ability to craft c4, then you clearly have not sat down and thought this out.

  83.  
      Leignheart

    BorgMorgan Just so you know you have that 100 correct, and that isn’t the worst part. Garry actually used the words hundreds of dollars. WTF

  84.  
      bioclone_ax45

    @garrynewman

  85.  
      MichaelJanes

    Broodyr MichaelJanes I guess that I should clarify that I don’t think that there should be a global inventory.

    Everything that happens in this game shouldbe restricted to the server(World) that you are currently in. Just like in legacy Rust.

  86.  
      MichaelJanes

    mogur00 MichaelJanes NEMISISmd Oh, I don’t necessarily care about the content of the post, I care that there is a place for this person to share their opinion.

  87.  
      PlzListenToMe

    Noob

  88.  
      PlzListenToMe

    No?? Didnt u read the text…. noob its just skins… lol noob

  89.  
      KillaMaaki

    wallaceroets KillaMaaki I know what the doppler effect is.
    Re-read the blog post:

    “As a bonus I made it lower the pitch based on distance if the sound is a gunshot”
    What I’m saying is that they should use a lowpass filter instead of pitching the sound up/down as it will sound more realistic.

  90.  
      TDEANT

    What if all of the craft-able player items and weapons in game had standard skins along with unique skins varying in rarity? These could be purchased from the community market or earn overt time from random drops with the more valuable items needing to be purchased from the market . The skins  could then be traded, sold or even bet on competitive survival games hosted on official server (similar to CSGO lounge) Just imagine a hunger games style competitive event in which you bet on your favorite rust survival expert! 

    I think there is huge potential for item skins but I believe it should not limit people from the availability of the items themselves so that everyone is on a the same playing field but can at the same time own and brag about a skin that others may not have haha :)

  91.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    At the moment I dont have any fear :D

  92.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    They are a great team

  93.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    Everybody needs to calm down!

  94.  
      bioclone_ax45

    Taurus Beerbaum I think the metal “box” should have mechanics like the ones in various MMOs, where you open a market menu and you accept the trade once its confirmed, that helps to be sure the deal its good from both sides.

    *of course that dont means a gang dont will kill you while you try to do it xD.

    This + Customized Adverts = economy system. (and involves also needing of a group, organize , recruit defenders, etc…)

  95.  
      bioclone_ax45

    Issues420916 edmundos99 you must be kidding speaking about The stompings Lands

  96.  
      TaylorMarsh

    The next thing you know, Rust will be Free to Play, and there will be starter kits that give you in-game advantages….

    I don’t think anyone wants account-bound schematics that are tradable on the market….it just gives Richy Rich the ability to make a rocket launcher at the beginning of the game, while you are struggling to find a stick.

  97.  
      GT4tube

    edmundos99 this sucks Out of Reach is copyright!

  98.  
      War Wolf Jack

    wallaceroets 
    Nevermind I read the article again, the idea is pretty good. Each blue print has to be earned and is one-time-use only. It can be traded on steam to friends for free or for small amounts of money to strangers (or vice versa).
    We can still lose these one-time-use blueprints

  99.  
      Issues420916

    edmundos99 That game looks like 100% pure shit lmao. Looks like The Stomping Lands, and that game went well didn’t it?

  100.  
      War Wolf Jack

    wallaceroets Oh, theyre selling variants and not replacers? Are you sure? If thats true then that’s awesome and I feel retarded.

  101.  
      wallaceroets

    @Garry I think introduce the variant blue-print skins and make them account bound. Then when ppl beg you “I also want the Santa suit skin with zero stats”, you can remind them that they’ve been dicks about it.

    I really dont get why ppl think a variant means a replacement. It means when you eventually get the server side blue print, you can craft it in your skin. It doesn’t mean you join the game and can immediately craft a rocket launcher.

  102.  
      wallaceroets

    KillaMaaki Have a look at that video again, the pitch changes only when they move  further or closer to the source. Have a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppler_effect

  103.  
      bioclone_ax45

    MMM… now with all these discussions about the Steam market, you can make a plot in the game where the world was destroyed by a war started by Steam xD

  104.  
      nathan75

    bioclone_ax45  now that is cool they have got to add that and glass be cool

  105.  
      nathan75

    Majestix  now that is cool love it you got to add this

  106.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    edmundos99 Shut up

  107.  
      Vegeta897

    edmundos99 Looks like that game is already dying. 1k euros out of 75k raised and 19 hours left.

  108.  
      ShaunDreclin

    edmundos99 it is possible to *gasp* play more than one game.

  109.  
      zarypa

    Yesnoyesno just cosmetic blueprints, with no different properties should be available to buy or trade. Where is the pay 2 win? Is League of Legends a pay 2 win? GIves you a Skin any advantaje over your enemies? Dont think so. Why you rage so bad without reading deeply this DevBlog? Can’t understand.

  110.  
      ThomasvanderLinden

    BorgMorgan I’m sure they will not exaggerate the advantage of having blueprints. Someone who’s played rust legacy for 100+ hours must have had all blueprints available. Lazy players can probably buy one for a couple of euros on the steam market, so what. It’s more about the customization and perhaps community created content. I hope.

  111.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    edmundos99 thanks for that link, that looks awesome !!!

  112.  
      ThomasvanderLinden

    I think the steam market idea is excellent. The hard workers in the game do not get penalized. The lazy players will have to pay. Drops that actually are worth money ,when investing time and effort in your game makes the rewarding system in my brain go like jackpot and I’d love to see it in Rust. Especially if you can choose personalize your character by ‘buying’ outfits on the steam market. Which isnt actually buying since you’re using money the game has gave you back. It’s really awesome I love it!

  113.  
      zarypa

    P.D.: I’d like the trade system only if “global blueprints” are not overpowered. Just cosmetic is nice, just like “League of Legens” champions skins, for example. People loves that shit of being different and unique. Maybe weak players wont be afraid of this if you make those blueprints just tradeable for other ingame sutff instead of money. People shits their pants when “money” word appears into a game. Maybe, going too far, just dont make them tradable, but please, global “cosmetic” blueprints it’s a BRILLIANT idea. It’s a “played time” reward that makes you unique and different. You fucking sweated blood to find that incredibly awesome “can helmet”, so, the server where you decide to stablish yourself, ONCE YOU GET THE SERVER HELMET BLUEPRINT, you’ll be able to make an unique helmet, your CAN HELMET.

    I mean, it is fantastic. What you can’t do, sporadic player, is to cut down progression possibilities of long-time players, as it MUST BE  rewarding system, even if it is JUST COSMETIC. Be fair, dont be greedy or selfish. Thank you all.

  114.  
      zarypa

    It really annoys me. Annoys me a lot the people who think they bought a finished game. You know you boght an Early Access game. Deal with it. It Is not even a beta!!! You should thank that is minimal playable (sorry for my english). This means that is nice if you can go into the game and spend some hours playing, having fun even with thousands of bugs, because, i repeat, is under development, for God sake!. 
    I love the Key system. Is just real!! Dont think this is an Arcade game. Not at all. Last day i entered an official server. I saw a house without lock. Made one, took the hose for me. Then, someone came into my house stealthly, killed me and took my key. So now im without house, without key. It fucking annoyed me and i raged like a german kid (just a joke) but, this is rust. That’s Rust. That’s the game we want. Maybe next time It’s me who steal a house and rape their inhabitants. It’s tremendously fun.
    Said that, I find a little big problem with procedurally generated maps. Lots of people (like me, for example) buys and plays games to play with friends. In legacy Rust it was possible to find your friends because of you know the map. But know, i dont see the way to “easily” find my friends. I cant see their names, i cant tell them where to meet. I think, even destroying the realism, there should be a way to agree “friends list” so that i can see their name and situation all the time or something like that. Maybe is not “real” or “simulator” but it really makes the game soo much playable and ENJOYABLE. Maybe a friendlist with a maximum of 3-4 friends at a time, with a big cooldown (days) to change those friends. The idea is recognise and find your very friends in the game and not spend hours to find them, just to die without a respawn point and start it all again. 
    For me, all the work you are doing with just perfect and nice. Building upgrade system is fantastic, keys system is nice.

  115.  
      edmundos99

    When Out of Reach is released – http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=310223398 – Rust is dead.

  116.  
      edmundos99

    MiloszMilewski palleh  Yep.  Rust is dead now.  This game looks like what Rust should have been.  If people see this, they – like me – will abandon Rust like the sinking ship it is.

  117.  
      NateFranku

    Cue the bomb whistling sound effect. Because the team turned into EA.

  118.  
      hachempvz

    AlexandreMotta hachempvz VanarKovayan in case you didn’t open the link , he clearly says : “COSMETICS”

  119.  
      SirXeroX

    good job now we got a pay2win game rly good….. :(

  120.  
      BorgMorgan

    I’m not sure if I 100% understand this correctly but… people with money could simply buy all the blueprints from the market? I really hope this isn’t the case… Nearly sounds like something EA would come up with :/

  121.  
      mogur00

    RaXu NEMISISmd and FYI, developers care about constructive criticism and bug reporting.. not this kinda crap

  122.  
      mogur00

    RaXu NEMISISmd il assume that was directed at me and you just had trouble locating the correct ‘reply’ button. Cheers!

  123.  
      mogur00

    MichaelJanes mogur00 NEMISISmd lol if you care about this angry, caps-filled rant, you’ve got a lot of great reading to do online!

  124.  
      Leignheart

    DJREX tomadlarge admin33 Grammar and spelling are not indicative of intelligence. If a person does not know the difference between your’e ( you are) and your ( not you are ) does not mean that person in not intelligent. It simply means that person does not have that knowledge, or is possibly typing on a phone and autocorrect kicks in. Also Not knowing something, is nothing to be ashamed of, but putting people down because they don’t know something, is. It is a very arrogant thing that you did and should not do in the future for others. You should teach only for the sake of teaching and not to put other people down. Period. I have had to teach many people many things (including rust players), but that does not make them unintelligent, what makes them unintelligent is if they refuse to use what I have taught. I hope you understand what I am saying and put it to use in future cases. It is always good, to be good.

  125.  
      Teemo

    thecmankass some of the commands broke in this latest patch, turning off motion blur is one of them. Same thing happens for me, it’s stuck on and the game just generally runs a ton worse. Hopefully they will be able to fix this soon.

  126.  
      Shamed Medic

    I think a lot of you are overreacting to this…

  127.  
      NathanMiller777

    Yes, the bandage animation is awkward.

  128.  
      scecjs

    wallaceroets TheBestJohnEvar Some people may be taking their comments too far, but they are doing exactly what you mention.  Garry mentioned something and this is the response from the community.  It shows that a large portion of the community is against any form of microtransactions, be it from the developer or peer-to-peer.
    Personally, I don’t have a problem if it is only cosmetic items.  I do have a problem when there is mention of “jiggled stats” because that means the global unlocks will offer a competitive advantage over local.  I don’t like layers of RNG over RNG and I don’t like pay-to-win and this adds a little more of both.

  129.  
      DillonFahey

    Is it me, or.. Is the bandage animation a little awkward..?

  130.  
      Jamal Diesel

    Not a fan of any out-of-game items, even if it’s only “cosmetic”. I agree, don’t take away from what everyone loved about Legacy – update, clean up, speed up but don’t change the gameplay – that’s what brought us all here! Love updates, but seriously gotta prioritize the bugs that currently make it unplayable – or as my friends have said it’s not engaging enough right now. It’s too open, too buggy, too laggy even on good computers – we love your ideas but just make it work.. Once it’s working everyone will back off because they’ll be too busy playing to complain.

    If you really do read these and care about feedback, I think there’s plenty here to realize you may be trying too hard or need to refocus. Put yourselves in our shoes – would you be patiently reading Devblogs or would you be skimming the content for the place where they say “ok guys we fixed it and have enough content to be fun to play again”. Would you want to spend hours/days/weeks on a server right now and say it’s engaging? Thanks for you all you do because I wouldn’t be able to do any of it myself, but put your minds where your hearts are and let us get back into the game and have some fun while providing feedback on making it better.

  131.  
      coolhh355

    War Wolf Jack It’s a HORRIBLE idea for RUST if you really think about it, people will lose a lot of money every day and will just rage quit and uninstall, it WILL cause a lot of problems within the community.

  132.  
      MiloszMilewski

    palleh HOLY FUCK OF FUCKERS SAKE
    See that! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8VP4K54DVs
    It’s the rust killer!

  133.  
      Broodyr

    MichaelJanes If you think about it, though, with that system people would just end up making something like a Rust trading forum where they agree to meet up on some random server just to trade blueprints. It’s still not immersive, and it ends up being a hassle instead.

  134.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    w00tz0r you say it. its so true, the key system is so terrible, i saw guys who hammerd 10h at theyr base to lvl up to 6. then he fergot to make a copy of the key and not placed them inside base. he opend door, get shootet, keys robbed, base was given to raiders… boooooooooooo.

    look at the meat stacking ,it does not exist… kill 3 animals and your hole inventory is full of meat. and and and. 

    i think, thinking of cosmetik parts, like make a shirt nicer, you can think of, when the game works.

  135.  
      tRUSTinrocks

    kinda trolling

  136.  
      tRUSTinrocks

    updates come to fast, monthly update ftw.

  137.  
      w00tz0r

    All people really want it a working game. No more server wipes, no more downtime. Just get everything that’s in the game now to work. the bear trap hasn’t worked since it was first implemented months ago… same goes for the building system, it’s too messy. The key system is horrible, i don’t see why the hell you would change the old code system to something like keys..

    And for the love of god, go back to the old map system, nice and small and give the community the tools to build their own maps, as big as they want.. let people decide which server/map they like to play on, some like a big map , some like a small map..

    Also the loot system is really bad, takes too long, same goes for unlocking, opening, closing, locking doors when you are running away from someone.
    And please while your at it, make it so metal walls can’t be destroyed unless you use C4 or something..

    I understand a big part of your team is working on new items and models, but there is no need to implement them. Just get the basics fixed ASAP and then put them all in with a big update.

  138.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    bioclone_ax45 you can set a storage box in the window too ;) same effect. but its a nice idea !

  139.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    Rustloversszz Taurus Beerbaum DDOS is maybe a big part of the issues, but you can´t tell me, that i can not turn of bluring via that F2 menu is the fault of DDOS, for example. there are many more shit going on.

  140.  
      Rustloversszz

    Taurus Beerbaum Don’t be stupid it’s not garry’s fault DDOS is going through every server, which a large amount of network traffic is distributing to a server which makes you time out. Stop blaming and start giving him some damn support as he is trying to fix it!

  141.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    every update the game get worst…. get kicked after 5min, can´t join a server, can´t wake up on a server, can´t make settings like turn off fucking bluring and clean lense… what are you doing there ? do you check updates, before they get out ? 

    ppl are and get mad about rust, its not playable !!!

  142.  
      Rustloversszz

    Garry, I have great respect for your work and I understand how hard it is to content your customers, I understand, but now you need to step up your game.. people are getting angry some are furious which led to harassment, but now even people who have great respect to you are complaining not speaking about me. but there are, i don’t really care if you do things wrong, if your doing your best for me it’s enough, but now things are slacking, people are complaining even more on lag, server down times, etc.. I would recommend on dealing with the most of most important, do not let everything slack at the last minute you were doing a tremendous good job, if you let everything slack now, i’m afraid you will start losing more customers, i know it doesn’t bother you that much on losing them as long as they don’t pose any annoyance but i know you love your job, do not let the little kids down at the end :) I wish you good luck.

  143.  
      JoeBidjoba

    Just why ?

    Why are you killing the game ?

  144.  
      tRUSTinrocks

    Rust needs unusual hats

  145.  
      backdrifters00

    New content will be nice and all, hard work on development and innovation very much appreciated, but PLEASE GOD JUST MAKE THE GAME WORK! I just want to play and stop wasting hours building just to have it all wiped away the next day

  146.  
      RustyRust

    Pioneer58_2004  Well the fact is that Garry has used terms like “mostly cosmetic” and “jiggled stats”. So as he is describing them, they aren’t JUST SKINS – they are variants of the base blueprint. I’ll give you an example – the bolt action rifle. Lets say it has 5 stats that for the sake of simplicity add up to 10, and those 5 stats are Range, Accuracy, Reload time, Weight (slow you down while carrying), Damage. So if you just “jiggle” stats, you can make very different variations. For example: 5 range + 5 accuracy, 0,0,0 = super accurate long range sniper that would headshot kill anyone not wearing a helmet. OR like some other combo with mega dps but low accuracy. So, as garry has insufficiently described so far, variants are not JUST SKINS and could be seriously different items and still fit the ambiguous definitions he’s laid out.

    As for just blindly trusting Garry to make the right choices, well I do love rust legacy – hell of a game, best gameplay ever in a lot of ways. But I’m still waiting for the replacement for the zombies which were changed to red bears and wolves… “Yep. We did it. We decided we couldn’t hold off any longer. The longer we keep zombies in – the more complaints we’d get about removing them. We are forcing ourselves to deal with it. We are no longer a zombie survival game! They’ve been replaced with red bears and wolves. You hate them. We know. They’re just plugging a gap for now. All will be revvvealed.”

    STILL WAITING ON THAT REVVVEALED….

    I’ll regain a lot of “trust” when that 7 month old promise gets fulfilled.

  147.  
      shadowmere55

    If bringing global blueprints to different servers actually ends up becoming a thing, I’m just going to only stick to local blueprint servers because that’s pretty lame. There’s a feeling of accomplishment that you just don’t get when you buy blueprints for real money rather than earning them by actually playing the game. Cheap advantages like this ruins games in my opinion. Sure, the person still has to gather the resources to make it, but they’re already one step ahead of everyone else because they don’t even have to earn the blueprint because they already bought it. Defeats the purpose of a survival game, doesn’t it? If all the pay-to-win players want to ruin the game on global blueprint servers, fine, but I’ll be sticking to the local ones because I don’t want to have to deal with that shit.

  148.  
      Pioneer58_2004

    So many people seem to be confused on the blueprint ideas. A very simple way to think about it is, you are buy SKINS for the items in game. Thats all it is. And thats only if you want to. These SKINS can be found in the game and traded or sold to others through steam. To use said SKINS you have to be able to create the item originally.

  149.  
      MichaelJanes

    Teemo There will be servers available that don’t acknowledge global inventories.

  150.  
      MichaelJanes

    Melkespann Well, I noticed some bug fixes in the hour that I was able to get on and play last night.

    One of them being that animals no longer clip through the rocks. That’s a big one in my book. The sounds have changed (perhaps for the worse) and it appears that the launcher has some more self-checking in place.

    So, a small list of fixes that I noticed yesterday. Better than nothing, by far.

  151.  
      Vulpyne

    Jcsjacob Did you even bother reading the update post on Reddit? It was linked at the start of the article ffs

  152.  
      MichaelJanes

    Broodyr pachorradas Well, that mechanic is already in place, there doesn’t need to be any sort of mechanized system for it. If you want to trade with someone, you just tell them, meet them and then make the trade.

    That is immersive. Logging onto an online trading system out of game is absolutely not immersive and makes the game more like some sort of Tamagotchi egg debacle.

    I just thank the stars that FP will allow servers to turn off global inventories.

  153.  
      MichaelJanes

    RaXu I would like an answer to this as well, motion blur has a tendency to make me nauseous.

  154.  
      MichaelJanes

    mogur00 NEMISISmd 
    I care, and I’m sure that many others do as well.

  155.  
      griffinsclaw

    NoneOfIt what you quoted just confirmed what I already said. global blueprints require that you’ve already unlocked the server blueprint. The blue jeans are a cosmetic variant (global blueprint) of an item that would be unlocked through the regular in game tech tree (server blueprint). You still need the server blueprint before you can craft the blue jeans variant.

    I’m getting my information from this post and the linked reddit post

  156.  
      Jcsjacob

    War Wolf Jack Just not in a game like rust

  157.  
      Jcsjacob

    Please don’t make this games blueprint system like TF2. I understand the fact that you aren’t doing this to make it p2w, but finding the blueprints in game is part of the rust experience having to start completely over in a reset is what this game is about. I don’t like it, and I hope you listen to the community and remove it.

  158.  
      War Wolf Jack

    This type of pay-real-money-to-get-ahead-super-quickly via the convenient Steam Market is a really good idea, but not for this game just yet. But be sure to use that system for your next game, Garry. Because it does have a lot of potential.

  159.  
      hoseppan

    MichaelMorawski I think there is. Read previous devblogs.

  160.  
      molymonade

    thecmankass did some1 answer your question?

  161.  
      thegreatgopher

    this would be complete bulshit
    it just means whoever feels like paying the most money can craft c4 at any time
    it sounds like people are going to try to befriend to get you to give them your blueprints

  162.  
      GT4tube
  163.  
      KillaMaaki

    For the gun sound you should add a low pass filter and decrease cutoff over distance. That way it cuts off the higher frequencies and leaves you with lower frequencies far away (IMHO just changing the pitch doesn’t sound quite right)

  164.  
      NoneOfIt

    griffinsclaw Where are you getting this information from? It’s wrong.

    “The idea was to have two tiers of blueprints. A server, and global. The server list would start off with things you could always craft. Stuff like a hammer, campfire etc – bootstrap stuff. The global (steam dropped) stuff would be variants of those items with jiggled attributes. So a pair of burlap trousers would be a server blueprint.. and a pair of jeans would be a global blueprint. The jeans wouldn’t offer any significant advantage – it’d be mostly cosmetic.”

  165.  
      danJa

    linkinzz mbarnett25 danJa i like the aspect of the option to choose local and global, but do you think a new player would  care what he choosed or do you think this new  player just wants to get into that game alredy after downloading and installing.. only negative with the global is the advantage / disadvantage if items give bonus  stats

  166.  
      danJa

    linkinzz danJa 
    I fully get it now, and im not that septic as before yet “scarred” it can turn out a good way but easily be a big mess and a verry negative aspect of the game. my point is also it would be sad to “nerf” new players if you could say it in that way, since their alredy “new” and have a disadvantage. there is no skill system so if the items where hard or expensive to get the newbs would almost have no chance against a player with higher advantages, lets say if you could only craft this eoka pistol or w/e its called, and you meet this tompson guys rolling in on you or lets just say they have +25 % attack damage and 25% defense because they got all the nice prints, so not the only fact that they’d have a better routine then they’ll also just own more if you get me.. its just that theres so many “wrong” options going this way in my opinion, and only a few “good” so im scarred, but i appericate the response and concern.

  167.  
      danJa

    tRUSTinrocks danJa  True it “depends” aswell as me being sceptical, i do belive as a beginner in tf2 you have quite a disadvantage to someone having +25%dmg with equal weapon if you compare a pyro fight etc then imagine if your headwear had 25% defense your chest etc against new players or players that cant afford it.. It’s true that this plan isn’t all messed, but its verry dangerous since it easily shows a verry negative aspect about the game.. If it’s a “fair” market system, then no fingers will be pointed.. But it only takes a little bit of “wrong” to ruin a whole game in this way of my opinion.. ofcours it’d be great with the 2 tier system aswell, but as a new puchaser of the game i wouldn’t look indepth about two tiers of blueprints, i’d just join the first server.. But compared to tf2 where these market items is given away every 20 min or so, then it wouldnt be that big of a issue either..

  168.  
      JonnieFromTheBo

    Mushrooomizer Thaaanks :)

  169.  
      NoneOfIt

    Regardless of our opinions on this latest update, let’s all together shows some appreciation for this amazing game and it’s fantastic developers!! I FUCKING LOVE RUST!! It’s hilarious, wacky, addicting, and downright offensive! One of my all time favourite games!!
    Please fill the comment section with your love for the game, whether you love legacy or experimental, or even the version where there used to be fast assed red zombies running around!!

  170.  
      zeusmaximus14

  171.  
      MichaelMorawski

    please add inverted axes in the experimental version…PLEASE!!!!!

  172.  
      ToyCop

    Sounds like a deal breaker.

  173.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    I still hope there will be over 1000 comments. Might be the only one :(

  174.  
      griffinsclaw

    What the rust team said about blueprints: “You’d need to have the server blueprint to be able to build the global blueprint variant.” “The idea of moving stuff to the steam market wasn’t financially motivated at all on our part.”
    What the rust community thinks the rust team said about blueprints: “For only $12.99 in our rust microtransaction store, you’ll be able to build rocket launchers first thing on every server you join!”

    Here’s what facepunch is suggesting in a step-by-step example:
    1) There’s an in-game method of acquiring blueprints and moving up the tech tree.
    2) You move up this tech tree far enough to be able to build a cloth shirt.
    3) You can craft this cloth shirt with materials.
    4) Through a separate drop system through the steam inventory, you get a cloth shirt variant blueprint. It’s called “I’M FRIENDLY” and it makes a shirt that says that on it. Surely now everyone will trust you.
    5) You go back in game, and with your cloth shirt blueprint, you can now make your “I’M FRIENDLY” shirt, which has the same stats as the cloth shirt and costs the same or more materials than the cloth shirt.
    6) It turns out they didn’t trust you. They killed you and took your lovingly crafted shirt. You decide to start over on a new server.
    7) You join your new server. This time you’ll craft your I’M FRIENDLY shirt first thing, so you’ll know if the server inhabitants will trust you before you’ve invested too much time.
    8) You attempt to craft your I’M FRIENDLY shirt.
    9) You can’t
    10) You don’t have the cloth shirt server blueprint yet
    11) The global blueprints are only cosmetic.
    12) How could you be such a fool

    note missing step: pay facepunch for global blueprints. They have ONLY suggested these things being random drops, and only suggested spending any money or out of game items to trade them with other players. I think this is a great idea. It allows there to be a great variety of items without overloading the tech tree, it gives a feel of progression as you play the game more in total, and it provides an easy way for facepunch to bring community created content into the game. I think it’s a great idea.

    There have been some complaints that this takes away from the in-game interaction dynamic by forcing you to trade outside of game. It actually does the opposite.
    1) You have your I’M FRIENDLY global blueprint
    2) You made your I’M FRIENDLY shirt, and you wear it around, proudly proclaiming your intent not to do harm to that group of people that’s been chasing you and firing guns at you for the last 5 minutes.
    3) You escape. The group that was chasing you says on server chat how much they like your shirt. They would like one of those shirts for each member of their group so that in the future everyone will know that they are friendly and not run.
    4) You make a few of those shirts. you now have 6 I’M FRIENDLY shirts.
    5) You find that group and drop the shirts. They said they would give you some cloth and wood in trade, but instead they give you bullets and steal your rock too.
    6) The group picks up their new I’M FRIENDLY shirts.
    7) Later the shirts have run out of durability from all the friendliness they’ve been engaging in.
    8) They have to ask you to craft more shirts. You are the server’s only supplier of I’M FRIENDLY shirts, because nobody else has that global blueprint.
    9) Well fuck those guys. They shouldn’t have burned their bridges. They may take your life and destroy your home, but they’ll never take your secret to crafting your patented I’M FRIENDLY shirts. besides, you have a thriving business selling to other groups on the server already.

    It actually PROMOTES in-game interaction by making it so you can only get all cosmetic items via trade or raid relations with other groups.

    Like I said, I think it’s a great idea. However I do see some of the concerns. Here are my questions:
    1) Does having more global blueprints confer an innate advantage by giving people more objective reason not to kill you and to gain your trust?
    2) Does having the ability to craft more cosmetic clothing and make a recognizable team uniform confer an innate advantage to your team, or is it counterbalanced by the weakness that your team will be even more vulnerable to someone who takes the time to copy your uniform?
    3) Going along with the last question, would you have to allow the mechanic of being able to make server blueprints from stolen global blueprint items? Or is it enough that you could kill someone and loot one copy of his uniform?

  175.  
      butthe4d

    I dont like that at all…the whole blueprint idea is terrible.

  176.  
      Reaver Chaos

    I agree with the over-whelming majority of people on here: using STEAM to trade blueprints is a bad idea.  It might be possible to do it in a way that doesn’t break the game, but it will still kill the immersion.  Trading inside the world is risky, adventurous, difficult, and a whole lot of fun.  Trading on steam is safe, passive, easy, and lame.

    Blueprints are the whole endgame “building up your character” component in this game.  Making it a hard, long process is what keeps people playing, it’s that RPG factor.  Making that purchasable on STEAM is like making an RPG where you can buy higher levels.  It’s a game killer.  If this devblog came out on April 1st I wouldn’t even hesitate to think this was a big april fool’s day troll fest.

  177.  
      thecmankass

    someone help me out here, so when i turn off motion blur its still on and its lowering my fps so badly that i cant play at all. with out it i can play on fantastic perfectly fine but now i can even play on “fastest”, is there another way to turn it off? please help.

  178.  
      Morbius2271

    You COMPLETELY ruin all immersion by forcing us to go outside the game to trade. This isn’t TF2, this isn’t CS:GO, this is Rust. I have been a big fan of the reboot, following updates closely, just waiting for it to be at a point where I want to start playing again, but this makes me wonder if I will even want to come back.
    This may seem like I’m blowing this up, but I honestly feel that this ruins a HUGE dynamic in the game, and gives a gigantic advantage to those willing to sped RL cash to buy blueprints. Sure, they have to farm the mats, but they still get to craft way more and probably better stuff than I will by not funneling my student loan checks into blueprints. I have to still farm mats too, but now I get shittier gear for it.

    I appreciate what you guys are trying to do with the marketplace, but you are barking up the wrong tree. We don’t want a game like CS:GO and TF2, we want RUST! An immersive survival experience, with great, socially centered gameplay. Now out post-apocalyptic survival game will have a RL cash market… It is almost offensive to the idea of the game…

  179.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    wallaceroets Its still interesting imo :D

  180.  
      andrewg97

    literally pay2win, make it so that people cant use real money to buy the stuff and allow selling the bluprints for some “points” that can be used to buy other people blueprints and stuff, otherwise its just a stupid excuse to involve real money on the game.

  181.  
      wallaceroets

    TheBestJohnEvar Not sure what the bug deal is though. That is what this game is all about, trial and error. I might not agree with things, but it doesn’t mean I am going to rage quit an alpha game. Garry mentiones this things so he can get a feel from the community, not the be shot down as something set in stone.

  182.  
      MiloszMilewski

    palleh MiloszMilewski Saw that, even my bro bought it on his steam account. This is really nice game. From caveman to medieval king ;)
    Thu it takes a lot of time and you need to know game mechanics.
    Stonehearth looks promising, but it’s not same genre as Rust
    The Forest have cannibals and i don’t like them.
    I prefer pure survival. With animals and shit. Game with possiblity to make your own community and actually trade with people, not magically transfer item through steam inv.

  183.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    Already more than 830 comments. Holy shit people are upset. This is even more controversial than the key thing :D

  184.  
      Majestix

    I’m the only one, where there are no servers on the new rust ?!

  185.  
      RaXu

    NEMISISmd The developers do… you fucking 13 year old twat

  186.  
      mogur00

    NEMISISmd nobody cares what you think.

  187.  
      bioclone_ax45

    some raider style armor also xD

  188.  
      bioclone_ax45

    Just add this:

  189.  
      2spooki4u


    I think you should really start thinking about using this feature in the goal of better organisation.

  190.  
      AlexandreMotta

    hachempvz VanarKovayan He never said that. He said they would have “jiggled” stats. Also, he only said you would have to get a previous blueprint after there was huge backlash. For all we know, you could need a “level 1” blue print that’s pretty easy to get, then you would buy lvl2, 3, 4 etc.
    Still pay to win.

  191.  
      NEMISISmd

    Done playing this broken shit. Legacy was great just hacky. Talk about taking two GIANT steps backward. I love how your team and yourself are pretending the game works great and everyone is happy while you putz around experimenting on “geez I wonder how my coffee cup would look as an in game model” “maybe we can sell virtual coffee to these suckers I mean they let us rip the original game right out from under them they should go for ANYTHING at this point” GET YOUR STUFF TOGETHER AND FIX PvP AND HOMES BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!

  192.  
      Tengo

    I think, the trade shop is a bad idea. I think, a better solution is it, when I make 10 oder 20 item, then I have learn the blueprint and then I can made this blueprint with a pencil and paper und trade this with other players.
    So, i must live for share my knowledge. I hate content like “Kill a player, take his knowledge, because he is so stupid, he can’t learn, what he read.”
    Also, stop this shit.

  193.  
      hachempvz

    VanarKovayan Blueprints from steam market or drops are COSMETICS and can only be crafted if you found the same blueprint in the server , so quite literally , it isn’t pay2win , it’s just to make you look good

  194.  
      Andy800D

    im sorry but the sounds are still terrible according to your video its literally louder than anything else in the game, why dont you implant actual sound from walking and running cant see it been that hard to do

  195.  
      Weedlocks

    mbarnett25
    Yes indeed, but hey we do as we may. its shows my determination to want to move this game, after we laugh but I think it’s a major problem when one is ill in a foreign language. Thank you internet translator XD

    after but luckily I untranslated version for you to translate in case

    original version 

    Oui effectivement, mais bon on fait comme on peut. sa montre ma détermination a vouloir faire avancer ce jeux, Après on en rigole mais je trouve que c’est un problème majeur quand on est mauvais en langue étrangère. Merci les traducteur internet XD. 

    après heureusement que je mais la version non traduite pour que vous la traduise au cas ou

  196.  
      wallyrrr

    fix the god damn game ffs

  197.  
      currieh21a

    I think that the steam trading system is a grate idea! unfortunately, i don’t feel like its Rust, When i used to play on a legacy server with my friends we would collect blueprints, and then when we had duplicates that no one wanted we would trade them with other people, for eg: Guns, and other various items. this would be done un armed with my friends watching very closely from afar with there guns  at the ready. if the shit was to hit the fan. we had insurance. I found this was a cool dynamic to the game and i feel having trading outside the game will lesson that immersion feeling. It is just my opinion. please do what you see fit devs and keep on making this amazing game :)

  198.  
      VanarKovayan

    Wait wait wait and wait again, when did survival game become pay to survive? I’ve read the whole thing and it seems like whether the blueprints are guns or mainly cosmetic it still changes the meaning of the how well you can survive. Cosmetics would mean if a group has all the same color base clothing then the chances of friendly firing each other in a raid is much less then the other people and we have all seen that happened, not even gonna talk about gun BP you guys all know how pay2win works. Unless I got the whole thing wrong and only trade ins are acceptable which in that case we would not need steam, we could of done it through in game. It is really taking the challenge of survival away. As far as I know survival game is all about challenges you face. If you have the global/universal BP you still are ahead from everybody else since once you researched the server BP you can easily craft the new stuff quickly. People really want to see their hard work set them apart from everyone else. That is  why we have the word “BEST”, and its should not defined with money. Garry you are taking away the uniqueness out of this game. If this thing fucks up with the game im gonna switch over to H1Z1 which im really curious about.

  199.  
      ChristianSparks

    Awful lot of people complaining about shit without actually reading it first. Stop crying, it’s a fucking video game, if the devs really didn’t give a shit these devlogs wouldn’t be here every Friday.

  200.  
      KnuckeDeep

    The new build animation is really interesting and unique. I love it. It lets me know how much longer i have to beat on something before it breaks. Thats important when no one has your back. lol The place holder for that animation (bright purple) has reminded me to bring up the locks. The locks are exceedingly bright for my personal tastes. If i can see yours you can see mine from across a large distance. Right now im just building doors towards a cliff face with room to wiggle in so they cant be spotted as easily. 

    Now that reminds me to ask about radiated light sources… they pass through walls and cliffs to the surrounding area. Im sure you know this…. oooo oooo ooo the animals did not run under rocks last night and nip at my heals! GREAT JOB. I hate chasing a hog with a rock , balls flapping in the wind, only for the hog to get away into a rock; and rest assured that a bear would be coming back to you from underneath. lots of great fixes guys.

  201.  

    can some one help me whit this bug i set all on low but got still high quali

  202.  
      hachempvz

    Ramztein Mushrooomizer it’s not pay2win , he said that all these items are cosmetics , OH , and to craft them , you also need to get the server blueprint of that actual blueprint -_-

  203.  
      Arcenist

    mbarnett25 From reading what they have said in the devblog, all players will still be able to find all blueprints on a server by themselves. Their “trading card” type of buying means you don’t have to go out and find the blueprints yourself if you don’t want to. But yes, you can still lone wolf it and find everything yourself.

  204.  
      Ramztein

    Mushrooomizer Ramztein Lol those issues had to be adressed its not like they can not do it im talking things that can change but they dont have to, second of all u are using ur typical why dont u do it if u dont like it mindset too fucking hypocrite .

  205.  
      Mushrooomizer

    Ramztein
    But they do care, we complained about Legacy needing more content and they completely rebooted the project in order for it to be amazing….
    We complained about Sounds being broken. lo – the sounds have received some work.
    We complained about about the map being too small in Legacy and they made a procedural one..

    +++many more(Read the devblogs).

    Looks like they do care and you are using your typical “user” mindset to slingshot their efforts in a negative direction. Instead of looking at what they haven’t done, look at what they have done and appreciate it….

    If you don’t like being thrown at the mercy of a bunch of developers, become one yourself and develop your Own rust at your own desired pace, with your own desired content..

  206.  
      Ramztein

    Ok so last time i cheked on this game, early access for them meant and i quote: We want the players to influence the direction we take development. Having a huge amount of people testing the game and giving us constant feedback about the things we’re adding, removing and changing is a huge deal for us. So is that a lie now or what? cuz it doesnt seem they give a shit about what we think so far.

  207.  
      Mushrooomizer

    JonnieFromTheBo Steam -> Library – >right click on rust->click on local files tab->verify integrity of local game cache.

    If that finishes but doesn’t work, go to the folder where you installed steam and delete everything except Steam.exe and the steamapps folder.

  208.  
      Derakor

    mbarnett25 ok but something i don’t get and maybe some others don’t ether, Will you be able to build EVERYTHING by yourself on only one server, without buying any blueprints? this is the biggest thing, and without it taking days to do it? old rust i could get everything in less then a day or two, that was un modded server. it was fine. now will this still allow us free people to get everything lone wolf still?

  209.  
      mbarnett25

    Excerpt from rustafied.com
    “Global vs. server blueprints
    This is the most important distinction and was not explained in the devblog. Each server will have their own blueprints for the standard items. Global blueprints (the ones on Steam) will be variants of the server blueprints with comparable stats. You will not be able to join and server and craft your global blueprint items right away. You’ll have to actually find the server blueprint in game before you can craft its global equivalent. Server wipe? You have to find them again. Join a different server? You have to find them again.”

    This makes me feel a good bit better about all this.

  210.  
      mbarnett25

    linkinzz mbarnett25 English has been my native language for 3 decades and I can assure you I am upset too.

  211.  
      mbarnett25

    linkinzz mbarnett25 danJa  we shall agree to disagree then sir

  212.  
      mbarnett25

    Weedlocks  I like how your pun still worked in the english translation xD

  213.  
      mbarnett25

    almond_stash ChuckoMay  like 2 min?

  214.  
      mbarnett25

    rustergroovie  This comment is just plain ignorant.  Why allow comments in a dev-blog? FOR FAN FEEDBACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  215.  
      mbarnett25

    Harley67  I can understand your feelings, but people still using 32-bit are going to be having more and more trouble with all software as time goes on.

  216.  
      Broodyr

    pachorradas ShinigamiGames94 This is exactly what I was thinking. They need to make an in-game
    trading system instead of using Steam’s, so real money doesn’t come
    into play. You could trade BP’s for other BP’s, and/or for an in-game
    currency which isn’t purchasable with real money.

  217.  
      Harley67

    What is being done to allow players who have been playing since the beginning, with 32 bit pc’s, to be able to play the new Rust.  This new version shut out 1/3 of your players

  218.  
      Weedlocks

    I agree with you, it makes the game too easy if BP has are available to any player via STEAM, then as you say its would remove all the charm of the game, when players exchange bp in-game or else his forcing people to go out and talk to other players. but so many have played a FPS nooby as cal of duty or bisounours like minecraft

    Original version 

    je suis d’accord avec toi, ça rende le jeux trop facile si les BP sont a disposition de tout joueur via STEAM, puis comme tu dit sa enlèverais tout le charme du jeux, quand les joueurs échange des bp in-game ou autre sa oblige les gens a sortir et parler au autre joueurs. sinon autant joué a un FPS nooby tel que cal of duty ou au bisounours comme dans minecraft

  219.  
      Weedlocks

    ChuckoMay
    I agree with you, it makes the game too easy if BP has are available to any player via STEAM, then as you say its would remove all the charm of the game, when players exchange bp in-game or else his forcing people to go out and talk to other players. but so many have played a FPS nooby as cal of duty or bisounours like minecraft

    Original version 

    je suis d’accord avec toi, ça rende le jeux trop facile si les BP sont a disposition de tout joueur via STEAM, puis comme tu dit sa enlèverais tout le charme du jeux, quand les joueurs échange des bp in-game ou autre sa oblige les gens a sortir et parler au autre joueurs. sinon autant joué a un FPS nooby tel que cal of duty ou au bisounours comme dans minecraft

  220.  
      jteast23

    Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE THIS GAME! But one thing I think is really necessary is view bobbing.. It adds so much more realism to the game, I think it should be brought back soon

  221.  
      svArtist

    Nooo, the whole trading idea just opens up loads of flood gates that will inevitably lead to situations where people with more money or more friends will “win the game”…. You’re not leaving level plain fields for all the lone rangers out there. Plus, this kind of thing is always very susceptible to many kinds of fowl play.

    For the gun shots (and in general), you should use a low-pass filter, not a pitch shift! Don’t “create a new sound”, rather take away the high frequencies that would not carry

  222.  
      JonnieFromTheBo

    Here you go….

  223.  
      JonnieFromTheBo

    Does game work fine with everyone else?Rust is patching for me for last 11 hours,patch after patch,it finishes one and 5 seconds after it does it start new one,it just keeps on patching…

  224.  
      almond_stash

    ChuckoMay Just remember you’re buying the blueprint, not the actual gun. It will still take time to craft something you have in your inventory.

  225.  
      oldtoast1234

    edmundos99 oldtoast1234 What? If anything it will be the opposite of what you’re saying, It will be exactly how it is now but harder you make things, Noobs could buy the blueprints but they still have to grind for materials just like you do know.

  226.  
      Wolf1030

    Particularly whether the geometry should change much, or at all, or just the texture/material. If the geometry stays the same but just the texture changes, things get very very easy for us.

    I’d honestly, very very truly, prefer to see geometry changes. I know its a bit more work. But having that sense of gradual changes vs texture swapping, is extremely rewarding for me. Starting off with a shack, gather enough resources, find a Shack lvl 2 plan, hammer away, see the new shack/end result in all its glory for all the effort.

    Rather then make shack, gather resources,hammer away, textures replace.

    I know modeling, texturing, coding, swapping, icons glitches ect come with all that, but the end justifies the means. A better quality of variety is better then better quality base work.

  227.  
      BringMeMyCoffee

    ChuckoMay exactly

  228.  
      BringMeMyCoffee

    pachorradas dude, i seriously hope this doesn’t go through, but looking at Garry, he never listens to us, so I doubt he will this time :/. We need to show our disapproval with our money.

  229.  
      ChuckoMay

    Im not talking .50 either… I mean if I wanted clan colors, I’d pay $5 for it.  And keep it for ever. But having Gameplay loot ready for purchase for ANY PRICE makes no sense.  I didnt even want all those guns when it was free. Everything should be something loot able in the server.  I have no reason to explore if I have everything I need as soon as I join a server.  The only thing left to do is beat up boulders/trees/animals.

  230.  
      yllibllik

    it sure is tom. our viewers want more challenge in their games and don’t like it when devs cater to the pussy majority. and now to sports.

  231.  
      pachorradas

    BringMeMyCoffee 100% true    +1

  232.  
      ChuckoMay

    ea… I LOVE the idea for things that dont effect gameplay.  I would even purchase many items if I had a clan base and wanted my clan members to be all red or all blue or something.  I would love to pay for a flag to put on my base… but just pay to win.  That’s so stupid.

  233.  
      BringMeMyCoffee

    It may not seem like a big deal now, but being able to buy blueprints is definitely the worst idea Garry has had yet.
    Today you might be able to buy a hatchet blueprint for .05, or a bolt action for .20, but what happens a year or two from now when there is some serious content in the game?
    Rocket launcher: $2.00
    Car: $7.00
    Lvl 13 fingerprint and eye scanner integrated titanium door: $12.00
    Here is how the future of Rust could be:
    “hey man I was rummaging through the plane crash site yesterday and found some electronics we can reverse engineer, I think we should be able to make some good blueprints from it, we’ll be one step closer to making that awesome thing we’ve been working towards for the past week”
    Here is the future of Rust with purchasable blueprints:
    “hey man I’m gonna head over to the satellite and see if I can find som..”
    “stop fucking around dude, I already paid $40 so we wouldn’t have to waste our time going to those areas, it’s too risky with the huge clans that are there farming the blueprints so they can sell on the market. Stop wasting time and get back to harvesting wood and metal”
    I think we can all agree this is a very very sad day for Rust.

  234.  
      BringMeMyCoffee

    ChuckoMay EXACTLY! WTF GARRY!? YOU’RE TEARING THIS FAMILY APART!

  235.  
      pachorradas

    ShinigamiGames94 this should be done in-game not at steam market, like in legacy. if not it breaks the game experiance

  236.  
      ChuckoMay

    Wait wait wait wait… so there is no more finding things, looting for things, exploring for things, killing for things? Instead we just buy blue prints and hit trees, animals, and rocks to build them???  90% the fun of Rust is running around the map looking for valuables and fighting over them.  Or finding something and being scared because you have to make it back to your home to research them.  Blueprint purchases would be ok, and fucking awesome only if it was for vanity reasons.  Ex: Changing color of items, or flags, or signs, or skins… NOT pay to win.  I refuse to pay to win.

    What is the purpose of the game if there is no loot to find?  Build a home? Beat up trees/boulders/animals?  No need to explore?  Minecraft gave you more of a reason to leave your base… … Minecraft… think about that… Fucking Minecraft.  lol Shame.

  237.  
      scecjs

    Cst Pirate2014 I don’t mind cosmetic item exchange or Facepunch getting a piece of the exchange price.  But the game sold nearly 2 million copies before anyone was even aware of the new build’s existence.  They have made enough money to keep their dev team employed far beyond the development cycle for Rust and the future Rust 2: Oxidation.

  238.  
      pachorradas

    oldtoast1234  It’s about principles, I don’t want to have to pay anything,
    it’s not being cheap, I just don’t like to be forced in to paying if want to
    have an advantage over other people that don’t pay.

  239.  
      BringMeMyCoffee

    oldtoast1234 you’re retarded, this new blueprint system will still ruin the atmosphere of rust, there will be noobs running around with guns, it will be a deathmatch.

  240.  
      BringMeMyCoffee

    Seriously guys, this blueprint system sounds horrible, it seems as if the game will turn pay 2 win, it will just ruin the natural selection of Rust, it sounds like it will ruin all the fun.

  241.  
      JasonLdnGraphics

    ScarfaceCapone You took the words out of my mouth, very well said!

  242.  
      JasonLdnGraphics

    bioclone_ax45 Exactly, a trade wall or something would be much better and would not break the immersion.

  243.  
      Melkespann

    @Edward7089 You must have misunderstood the term “pay to win”. Pay to win does not mean that the developers earn money on players trading, it means that you are able to progress faster in the game simply by using money. Which is a concept a lot of players in the community doesn’t want. No where in my comment did I say that the developers earn money on the trading.

  244.  
      Melkespann

    I’ve read this blog since the beginning and I test the game often to see what have changed. What you define as “criticism” is a lot of the time helpful for the developers. Developers need both good and bad feedback. Don’t try to stop people from telling their opinion and preferences. Developers often rely on what the community wants. Thank god you are not a developer.

  245.  
      06unique06

    the server is running 

    that due to spam? Rusty – Admin tool

    Connecting to server
    Success
    152.112.138.172 caused an exception when connecting – blocking for 10 minutes
    NotImplementedException: Unknown wire type: 4
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    202.24.158.176 caused an exception when connecting – blocking for 10 minutes

  246.  
      palleh

    MiloszMilewski Might want to take a look at Life is Feudal. Pretty fun survival game though it is skill based and things take FOREVER.

  247.  
      edmundos99

    oldtoast1234  Until you learn the difference between “to and too” and “there and their” you don’t get to tell anyone anything.  And don’t tell me to “stfu”, you arrogant prick.

  248.  
      Taffie

    We wanted better graphics and more things to do in the game not for the game to change. As much as I played Legacy Rust I always got the blueprints I needed. I either risked dying and kept killing rad animals or going into rad towns. Changing this would kill everything we know about the game. Friends and I would make friends in the game and make trades in game. I remember I rushing back to base after trading C4 and trying to get it back without dying. We want our rad towns, we want to be able to make a lot of different things and try and survive. Stop trying to ruin the game.

  249.  
      06unique06

    client.connect 109.95.212.38:28515  is stable

  250.  
      RaXu

    Why cant i turn off the motion blur?

  251.  
      Weedlocks

    people cry not because it will pay off or not but he yells because it killed the game and I just agree with them, for me this game system is made so that the player explores to find some thing to survive and make deal with situations, he hides or live in a fortress to avoid being killed or getting plunder by other players. if a store or another just about all that will remove the STEAM

    Original version 

    les gens crie pas parce que ça sera payant ou pas mais il hurle car ce système tuée le jeux tout simplement et je suis d’accord avec eux, pour moi ce jeux est fait pour que les joueur explore pour trouver certaine chose pour survivre et font face aux situations, il se cache ou vive dans de forteresse pour éviter d’être tué ou se faire piller par d’autre joueurs. si un magasin ou autre viens sur STEAM sa enlèvera tout ça

  252.  
      mzelina1

    Melkespann A Brand new player can pick up the game and get blue prints for a Tommy gun, C4, and maybe rare armor by throwing down 3-10 dollars. However, a bandit veteran might not even get close to owning this, due to their ‘stinginess’. It’s quite clear that this will eventually become a Pay2Win as you can advance through the game MUCH faster by smacking some money at a table.

  253.  
      Chembear

    slazza2007 exactly, it ruins the aesthetic the game has spent so long to create

  254.  
      Chembear

    oldtoast1234 TBH i think it’s just as bad if they are really cheap or really expensive. The point is that you are adding a shortcut which a lot of people are going to take. Games like this shouldn’t be about the shortcuts they should be about the grind. Searching for them and earning them with gametime not money. I think it just takes away a huge amount of the immersive gameplay. I hope i’m wrong

  255.  
      ShinigamiGames94

    Bob1955 Tom With The Weather Edward7089 Melkespann Nice, bob. I’m really amazed at how many intellectual and mature people like yourself bring great suggestions and comments to this wonderful community. On behalf of everyone enlightened by your generous wisdom, thank you.

  256.  
      06unique06

    effects.motionblur false does not work ((

  257.  
      ledleledleledle

    oldtoast1234 What makes you so sure they’re going to be under a dollar? Check out some of the prices for the rarer hats in TF2 and think again.

  258.  
      ShinigamiGames94

    88 Fingers Louie But.. didn’t the update happen last night? O.o

  259.  
      ShinigamiGames94

    Anyone else notice the screenshot where it showed the hazmat boots? On the right it shows the tags “Tradeable, Not Marketable”…. 

    I’m assuming the devs clearly know what they are doing. They were talking about some sort of market like this for a looong time. Back when they were working on legacy still. What they could do with this, is make some things ONLY tradeable with friends, not sellable. Things like c4 and bolt actions will only be tradeable, whereas more COMMON items like perhaps a large med kit will be sellable on the steam market. This is a very VERY nice compromise and it seems like a real possibility since the devs KNEW there would be this much hate at first.

    Please just keep trusting them to do their jobs, they love this game and if they were only in it for the money they would have stopped production after legacy.

  260.  
      oldtoast1234

    All you people that are complaining about it being pay to win, stfu I mean even if it’s hard to get some blueprints in game out will cost like 20¢ at most, the developers don’t get money from this, other players get the money. The only time you should be complaining about this is when you are to lazy to just play the game and unlock them or if you are too cheap ask someone for there blueprints, if you do end up paying, it will be under a dollar. If not, that’s because the players chose it to be more.

  261.  
      ledleledleledle

    Melkespann Gabe wins, everyone loses.

  262.  
      slazza2007

    Being able to safely store blueprints in your steam inventory is absolutely retarded. EVERYTHING should be lootable by enemy players.

  263.  
      Bob1955

    Tom With The Weather Edward7089 Melkespann suck Gary’s cock much?

  264.  
      88 Fingers Louie

    Our server is lovely and stable. fresh from the 16th. 

    client.connect 85.236.100.187

    U.K based.

  265.  
      alaskinnate

    George Black Meant to put on the line below!

  266.  
      alaskinnate

    danJa George Black GARRY! DOESNT! MAKE! A! DAMN! CENT! OFF! ANY! PURCHASE! MORON!

  267.  
      alaskinnate

    George Black GARRY! DOESNT! MAKE! A! DAMN! CENT! OFF! ANY! PURCHASE! MORON!

  268.  
      Tom With The Weather

    thenoprobros Tom With The Weather ledleledleledle Stunning comeback

  269.  
      Tom With The Weather

    AssassinoZockt SwaggyBoi142 AshleyHenson looksharp Can’t say that’s ever happened to me. Are you just running around aimlessly? It’s pretty easy to find your way around the maps. There are barely any landmarks at the moment and I still manage to find my friends without any problems.

  270.  
      thenoprobros

    Tom With The Weather ledleledleledle same to you

  271.  
      Tom With The Weather

    AshleyHenson Why do people insist on making this game easier? Learn the land. Get your bearings. You wanna find your friend? Work for it.

  272.  
      Tom With The Weather

    MiloszMilewski Yeah I can agree with this. I liked the old system. I liked the risk. And I liked being able to lure people into trades and then have an army of friends emerge from the mountains to strip them bare.

  273.  
      Tom With The Weather

    yllibllik Yeah I’m on board with this. In miss the old days of Rust when trying to survive was actually a thing. I feel like the game’s getting easier and easier.

  274.  
      Edward7089

    Melkespann Another comment from you criticizing the devs. They do release bug fixes, they just don’t blog about it much (there are some in this blog, if you have actually read it) because it’s boring and doesn’t show a sense of progress. PLEASE stop complaining about these blogs.

  275.  
      Tom With The Weather

    ledleledleledle See your comment? Delete it. You’re a moron.

  276.  
      Tom With The Weather

    Edward7089 Melkespann I was going to reply to this, but I think Edward7089 here just nailed it.

  277.  
      Edward7089

    Melkespann He has literally explained how it is NOT pay to win. In no way do the developers earn any money from the system-there are no in app purchases (except for market tax, but that’s very little and all games with such a system do it; so if you like counter strike or TF2 you cannot complain). You earn the blueprints by PLAYING THE GAME, not paying the developers money. If you really want, you can give up a little of your loot to another member of the community (NOT DEVELOPERS) in return for some of theirs.

    Summary: In no way is this pay to win. Stop bitching about useless things and bitch about things that are actually wrong (or, even better, don’t bitch at all…)

  278.  
      Tom With The Weather

    wallyrrr They’ve literally listed here some of the the steps they’ve been taking to “fix the game”, as you put it. WTF are you talking about?

  279.  
      Melkespann

    Why are you adding this (pay to win) trading when absolutely no one wants it? No one! I’m disappointed. By the way. Looks like an early christmas when loading up rust on Mac OSX, and no server shows up.

  280.  
      wallyrrr

    fix the god damn game ffs

  281.  
      Melkespann

    Every week you tell you´re going to fix bugs next week, but everytime you mostly work on new stuff. There is still a lot of bugs regarding being able to play the game at all.

  282.  
      Cst

    big suggestion: don’t make huge changes to the game that might compromise its stability, BEFORE FUCKING WEEKEND!

  283.  
      Teemo

    Oh god, please don’t add any way to purchase items outside the game. This is supposed to be a survival game and having to go around finding everything is what makes it fun. If people can just spawn, hit a few rocks and suddenly be outfitted with assault rifles…..how is that fun?

    You say it won’t be pay to win, but that’s exactly what it will be.

  284.  
      Bob1955

    Pay to play, another low for rust. Man did we not put up with enough of Newman’s shit. Beginning of the year no updates as he was out partying with our money from this game… A year on, he’s spent it all on cheep hookers and crap wine so needs his fix again… So pay to win is his solution. I feel violated.

  285.  
      edmundos99

    TyfE I don’t care that Facepunch won’t get the money, I care that ANYONE is getting money through a game that I’ve already paid for.  If I end up having to pay more money to play the game, I’m unhappy.

  286.  

    When i prees F2 i can click to change but nothing happen still high qualli have only i the problem ?

  287.  
      salamanderrake

    Any linux performance fixes?

  288.  
      Cst

    singapore is working? why other servers are not?

  289.  
      drapeta

    Also something i ‘heard’ but is not confirmed and I would like to know … There is rumor about people being able to get through windows again.  I am super disturbed about this!  (Unless of course we can get bear traps working :D

  290.  
      Cst

    oh come on give us some server stability!!!

  291.  
      drapeta

    The biggest thing in need of fixingz (IMO) is the walking on beach sand sounds
    AMIRIGHT!!!?!?!? :D

  292.  
      ledleledleledle

    I wish I never bought this. He SAYS it’s just going to be 0.3 cents
    each, but you know for a fact it’s going to be 50 bucks for the good
    items. Just look at how much useless hats sell for.

  293.  
      drapeta

    Mersh lol

  294.  
      yllibllik

    you know what I think you should do with blueprints Gary? I like the store idea. I like blueprints for the most part. only I think a key mechanic that should be used is; blueprints should not be studied, but needed to be used to build the object. every time. you loose your item AND the blueprint< you’re up Shit Creek. if you have the item, you can build the blueprint. if you have the blueprint, you can build the item. loose them both and you are at square one.no more learning to build. you have to follow the directions. what newman was an engineer or designer? fuck that and to fuck with all these pussies that want everyone to play nice together.

  295.  
      AlanMW

    Coordinates would be nice in my opinion.

  296.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    MiloszMilewski linkinzz sloxxx Yep thats the point. In my opinion this is total nonsense. So either way you dont enjoy finding a new rare item, because you could just buy it for 0.10 €/$ or it is super expensive

  297.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    is it true, that the server issues are DDOS ATTACKS ?

  298.  
      SwaggyBoi142

    Maybe try left4dead if you want a survival game where your friends are there to hold your hand the whole way ((::

  299.  
      Mersh

    YOU’RE TEARING THIS FAMILY APART GARRY

  300.  
      AssassinoZockt

    SwaggyBoi142 AshleyHenson looksharp Running for hours in hope of finfing a friend and always getting disappointed is fun to you? Huh, I guess..

  301.  
      pachorradas

    If the tradable blueprints were JUST 100% COSMETIC (skins) and have no special attributes I could probably tolerate it, but only as reskins of items you already found the blueprints for in-game (not being able to acquire and use/craft an item/blueprint from the store without having found the original item blueprint in the game first).

    Still wouldn’t like it much but I could live with it because this is a purely subjective opinion of mine and reskins of existing (already found) items wouldn’t affect gameplay

  302.  
      SwaggyBoi142

    AshleyHenson looksharp That would be dumb, if you’re shooting a flare up in the air people should be allowed to come mess you up. Also its a survival game, having your friends on the map at all times ruins the survival aspect. 

    Plus in my opinion finding each other is funny/fun

  303.  
      Pirate2014

    backdrifters00 doesnt seem to be anything, if anything they have made it worse with the lag.

  304.  
      backdrifters00

    SOMEONE please just wake me up when the servers stop crashing!  Is there/will there be any progress on that front in the short term?  I really want to play the game

  305.  
      pachorradas

    thedudely1 pachorradas m-p{3}  No, I get it
    perfectly, if you buy blueprints you start with an advantage that I won’t have
    if I decide not to buy them. I got the point perfectly, it’s just that some
    people don’t think ahead and can’t see the long term consequences for people
    who don’t pay.

  306.  
      JonnieFromTheBo

    linkinzz ethan3300 You cant earn blueprints from killing people…because its bound to your steam account,but you can get finished items…

  307.  
      MiloszMilewski

    linkinzz sloxxx Exacly, and we don’t like that. We like to trade in the game, because there’s need to travel to that person we want trade with.
    In steam there would be trading over freaking miles. It’s not so realistic.

  308.  
      looksharp

    AshleyHenson  crafting a firework / flare to shoot into the sky could be good

  309.  
      MiloszMilewski

    About the blueprints system – A BIG NOPE TO THAT IDEA.
    Rust is meant to be foocking realistic survival game. That means if you want to share blueprint then you need to travel to your friend and give it physicaly, not magically thru steam. Imagine:
    “Ooooh, I need blueprint to make new, better bow! Better ask my friend if he have one”
    “Cool! He do have one!” – Magically from sky falls brand-new blueprint.
    Also, i would like better to loot from someone blueprint. C’mon guys. It’s physical item and there’s no need to take it into that dirty steam inventory system.
    I guess i will be looking out for new survival game, what a shame…
    Things been getting better for rust, and now THIS…

  310.  
      linkinzz

    JonnieFromTheBo ethan3300 There will be servers where the steam inventory isn’t integrated and you earn everything through finding/killing people. Read the full blog. ;)

  311.  
      ethan3300

    JonnieFromTheBo ethan3300 yah hopefuly

  312.  
      linkinzz

    Cst Pirate2014 Don’t play on global inventory servers then.

  313.  
      JonnieFromTheBo

    ethan3300  um yah,but i am pretty sure you wont get Bolt Action from ”just playing” or someday in few months a bazooka,i mean,lets see first when they make it live but…i hope he wont make it pay to win as he says

  314.  
      linkinzz

    sloxxx If there is integration with steam inventory you trade through steam.. not in the game itself.

  315.  
      ethan3300

    JonnieFromTheBo did you not read he is trying to not making it a pay to win, AND you get the stuff from playing not just paying

  316.  
      looksharp

    AshleyHenson looksharp  id say everyone should be able to see it imho… more risk involved…

  317.  
      AshleyHenson

    looksharp AshleyHenson hmm like only people in your friends list can see and it leave like a streak of light for a certen amount of time

  318.  
      looksharp

    AshleyHenson me and my m8 were talking about this the other day… we both agreed that some sort of flare system to shoot into the sky would me great… then you could see the direction you need to head

  319.  
      JonnieFromTheBo

    I hope with this new IN-APP PURCHASES,doesnt make Rust ”Pay to win” game,I mean,if someone gifted you game and you dont have your wallet and not being able to enter market,how will you be able to buy blueprints?

  320.  
      looksharp

    servers still porked… trees in the sky and spawning under water ectect

  321.  
      Mr_Long

    Cst i´ts on every server…

  322.  
      AshleyHenson

    please please please make some kind of friend tracking system or map so we can find friends ! please please please

  323.  
      linkinzz

    mbarnett25 linkinzz danJa Minecraft is. But it shouldn’t matter, this is about personal choice. Why is it bad to have more choice? The only thing it can do is make more people happy. If you don’t like the syste, then don’t play on a server with this system. It’s customization like this that make games great, acutally.

  324.  
      sloxxx

    wow this will ruin pretty much alot of aspects of the game…in order to get those we must have traveled across the map or trade for something with other player in game,if u get shot by him and swandled well its rust…
    guess this wont be a problem now,but man we all love to be bandits so why are u ding dis garry

  325.  
      Cst

    any ideas about why is Amsterdam kicking everybody every 30 seconds?

  326.  
      Cst

    Pirate2014 Cst if you allow people paying money for cosmetic, you don’t change the game in temrs of playability and allow Garry to earn enough money to keep this game up. Like Path Of Exile does. Like Dota2 does, like Counter-Strike:Global Offensive does.

  327.  
      Pirate2014

    Cst youy should earn EVERYTHING in game, nothing should be payed for!

  328.  
      Cst

    Garry! make common, rare, extreamly rare blue prints! but please no p2w!

  329.  
      Cst

    btw, blueprints are too valuable to the gameplay, to let us to buy them through steam.
    Only Cosmetics should be allowed, like special clothes meshes, or different gun models, but not blue prints; them are what makes Legacy more fun, atm. You have to earn them.

  330.  
      tRUSTinrocks

    Cst my steam is updating

  331.  
      Cst

    it seems that they are working on something in servers right now… probably uploading a new patch already?

  332.  
      mbarnett25

    linkinzz mbarnett25 danJa  I don’t play minecraft, call of duty, or garry’s mod.  I thought this was a different kind of game… none of those are survival games are they?

  333.  
      Pirate2014

    lgndrypickax57 it keeps kicking but garry doesnt seem to be sorting any of the problems out

  334.  
      lgndrypickax57

    Whenever I join a server i get disconnected after like 20 seconds. wtf?

  335.  
      pawelnikeee

    lol

  336.  
      bioclone_ax45

    linkinzz bioclone_ax45 maibe, but still I dont like the idea, this was never expected and garry says that they really follow the feedback, so what I see its just that: most people dont like it, I dont think at all this will make better the game.

  337.  
      Cst

    gj! keep it up, this game might be a huge success!

  338.  
      tRUSTinrocks

    danJa tRUSTinrocks Depends on if the marketable blueprints gives you stronger weapons and armor and such OR if the marketable items just gonna be cosmetic.

    There are so many possibilities with the market and we cant know how it gonna turn out. 
    Look at TF2. Tons of items but you dont get a advantage.

    Dunno if you read what garry said (and thats just a idea):
    “The idea was to have two tiers of blueprints. A server, and global. The server list would start off with things you could always craft. Stuff like a hammer, campfire etc – bootstrap stuff. The global (steam dropped) stuff would be variants of those items with jiggled attributes. So a pair of burlap trousers would be a server blueprint.. and a pair of jeans would be a global blueprint. The jeans wouldn’t offer any significant advantage – it’d be mostly cosmetic.”

  339.  
      bioclone_ax45

    KnuckeDeep tRUSTinrocks bioclone_ax45 My idea of this item would be that it get a particular mechanic like the one on most MMOs or on the steam marker, ingame, both players must use the “metal thing” to open a menu where they place their items, and once both accept transaction gets over and stuff given. :D

  340.  
      linkinzz

    ScarfaceCapone It is not. You have to “work” in order to get the necessary resources and you too can take the items from dead bodies. Also, it’s not a requirement for servers to integrate steam inventory. The server admins decides how his server will be set up.

  341.  
      bioclone_ax45

    BlueprintPod bioclone_ax45 I suppose that trying to sell stuff in a post-apocalyptic have some risks xD

    *i would love to see anytime a server where you own to one “guild/clan” that “owns one area and defend its citizens, players who dont combat should help paying some fee to the defenders, then as a “peasant” you could make a shop and sell some high quality stuff… or a clan that works as weapon dealers and make some shops arround the world with guards and all ^^

  342.  
      linkinzz

    bioclone_ax45 linkinzz Yes, obviously it is true that money is involved. But then again, it’s not a requirement for servers… It will be possible to play on a server where you can just find the blueprint in a box or from a drop.

  343.  
      bioclone_ax45

    linkinzz the example of sell 2 TF2 items to get a decent amount for buy a coat are the kind of details that make people think that way….

  344.  
      BlueprintPod

    bioclone_ax45 Brilliant idea! The only downside I can see is that it finally makes grenades useful by giving unscrupulous meanies a place to drop them…

  345.  
      linkinzz

    mbarnett25 linkinzz danJa How so? The end goal is for everyone to play on the experimental server. And yes, you will have modded, community and official servers. All with or without global inventory. I don’t see how that is a mess? Do you not have multiple gamemodes in Garry’s Mod, CoD, Minecraft…? It is an enlargement of choice, which is good. If you don’t like the steam inventory system, go play on a local inventory server. If you like the inventory system, go play on global inventory systems.

  346.  
      linkinzz

    mbarnett25 linkinzz That’s definitely true, but when scanning through the comments I felt like half of the people were just complaining about things they either know nothing about or the development team doesn’t have time for right now. One of the reasons their development process is so open is to get community feedback, of course. But feedback should be constructive, not destructive.

    Example: People saying the integration with the steam market is bad while it’s just an added feature. Immediatly people hop on the “You just want our money” train while there will be an option for the server admins to turn off the global inventory? As I said, developers shouldn’t have to deal with such kind situations. One of the reasons for the misunderstanding perhaps is the fact that people aren’t native English speaker and can’t fully understand what is being said in the dev blogs.

  347.  
      mbarnett25

    linkinzz danJa  1)Not experimental anymore 2)experimental 3)legacy
    now among these three categories we divide into 1)Official 2)Community 3)Modded
    now among these 6 categories we divide into 1)local inventory 2)global inventory
    That just seems like a convoluted mess to me.

  348.  
      KnuckeDeep

    tRUSTinrocks KnuckeDeep bioclone_ax45 yeah ive run into that too around the edges. I dont know about right now but in the recent past i would have to make sure that im pointing more through the center of the window… I just wish i could play right now to give it a try

  349.  
      mbarnett25

    linkinzz danJa  now does that mean that the items they buy on the market will only be activated on one server?  If so we are screwed either way.  If not the community will be divided even further than it already is.

  350.  
      Pirate2014

    fix the god damn game ffs

  351.  
      danJa

    tRUSTinrocks Listen “its in our interest to make the game awsome ” Well not by making some people worth more than others just because you have plenty of blueprints that you purchased.. Its like DLC and other money rippers.. i loved this game in every aspects i knew i put my faith in good hands on the devs, sadly they now want more money and its clear, and because they want more money out of us, it will cost some of the awsomeness the game has.. simple..

  352.  
      tRUSTinrocks

    KnuckeDeep tRUSTinrocks bioclone_ax45 but you shoot and see bulletholes the air and that cant be right

  353.  
      mbarnett25

    linkinzz mbarnett25  maturity doesn’t mean that you just nod your head and say sure Garry.  Most of those bad spellings below are coming from people who don’t speak english as their native language and are just trying to communicate with this english speaking development team.  I think there are some immature trolls here, but many people have valid points, even some of the trolls…

  354.  
      linkinzz

    danJa Please read the full blog before commenting. It isn’t required.
    So that’s what we have planned. Valve are still beta’ing the inventory service, but they expect it to be ready quite soon. Once that’s done we’ll switch it on and see what happens. We also appreciate that not every server wants people taking their ‘global’ blueprints with them so will make sure they can choose global/local inventories.

  355.  
      tRUSTinrocks

    mbarnett25 tRUSTinrocks Critic is ok but its stupid to swear and throw buckets of hate at the devs because they change things and have ideas.

  356.  
      linkinzz

    mbarnett25 linkinzz I wasn’t trying to hate either. Just wanted to say that the team shouldn’t let themselves down because some people in these comments don’t agree with the direction they’re going as developers. It is their game and they chose to show every single step of the process to the community. They don’t deserve all of these poorly spelled, grammatically incorrect and downright ungrateful comments. Hence, I suspect the community isn’t quite mature.

  357.  
      danJa

    GT4tube Might think its cute, and game will still contenue.. But without me atleast.. another legal money ripping thing just like wow private server purchase, and tons of DLC’s in games this is just another way and who cant see this is simply stupid.. so take ur cute ass and stuff it with your blueprints.

  358.  
      mbarnett25

    danJa agreed, all we can do is hope they take all our posts to heart.  I would wager that 9 out of 10 posts on the subject are negative.

  359.  
      George Black

    The new version is much better, nice job making it. Market selling + trading things is a great idea but needs some balance to be made and please try to make fps a little better for bad pcs.

  360.  
      mbarnett25

    BRUXXUS mbarnett25 after  posting this last night, I did a little searching and in a devblog from january they said that they would continue working with atrium carceri if the community was digging the music but i don’t know what ever came of that.  But I’m even more excited about the possibility now.

  361.  
      danJa

    Wauw, so now you making people spend more money on buying all the blueprints while some is required to play maaany hours to achive the same.. First time being sceptical towards your work. But you simply “CAN’T” be “Required” to do such thing, why doesnt dayz and old rust have it then?.. I belive its somehow a way to get some more money out in the game and ofcourse steam gets win aswell, since some people will throw out own money because they cant wait 400 hours to find that item their looking specifically for.. Reminds me of another method just like putting hundreds of DLC’s out.. I feel so sad about this now. You changed my view completely, all my friendly told me about this and they just lost their faith in this game aswell.. The purchaseable items are not like CSGO where its simply “skins” its items that will help you become better compared to others that dont have it.. like private WoW servers n shit.. man this suck..

  362.  
      mbarnett25

    tRUSTinrocks  you can look to previous and future posts of mine and call me a Rust Fanboy, when we like where its going we tell them, when we don’t like where its going we tell them.

  363.  
      wallyrrr

    i buy fuburery why still suck

  364.  
      mbarnett25

    linkinzz  you made no valid points, just a little hate.

  365.  
      imnukingfuts

    Why cant i join servers?

  366.  
      mbarnett25

    tomadlarge  I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN JOINING YOUR ALL CAPS LAND STOMPING COMMITTEE

  367.  
      linkinzz

    Keep up the good work, Garry + team. It’s your game and I for one like the direction you’re headed. Too bad the community consists mostly of 12 year olds, as can be derived from the comments below.

  368.  
      tRUSTinrocks

    GT4tube Now thats kinda cute

  369.  
      linkinzz

    JamesKnapp The server admin can choose wether he wants the global inventory enabled or the local inventory enabled.. It’s a great option to have and it doesn’t force you to play with the global inventory. What is the problem here?

  370.  
      KnuckeDeep

    tRUSTinrocks bioclone_ax45 Maybe stand on a box infront of window?

  371.  
      StigChristensen

    wallyrrr You payed for early access

  372.  
      imnukingfuts

    schnatz0r looksharp yes, i am unable to join any servers at this time

  373.  
      wallyrrr

    I pay game. why game still alfa?

  374.  
      wallyrrr

    Rust n’est rust star alors vouloir the money.

  375.  
      imnukingfuts

    one problem… everytime i try and join a server it says either “Already connected” or “disconnected”

  376.  
      Weedlocks

    Rust is not a project like star citizen then Stop wanting more with the money you have that you’d dev Rust and not your other games because we pay for the dev of rust and nothing else I would a Dev blog to find out where and how you used money from players

    Original version 
    Rust n’est pas un projet comme star citizen alors Stop de vouloir toujours plus avec l’argent que vous avez vous auriez du dev que sur Rust et non vos autre jeux car on a payer pour le dev de rust et pas autre chose je voudrais un Dev blog pour savoir ou et comment utilisé vous l’argent des joueurs

  377.  
      GT4tube

    bioclone_ax45 loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.

  378.  
      mbarnett25

    tRUSTinrocks  saying that because we bought an unfinished game means that we can’t be upset about a particular aspect of the direction its going is just ignorant.

  379.  
      wallyrrr

    hax

  380.  
      wallyrrr

    GARRY NO TAKE MONEY STOP

  381.  
      GT4tube

    STOP MARKET! STOP GARRY TAKE MONEY OH GOD WHY! If come Market Blueprint people wont play Rust! YOU WILL LOST GAME! YOU FAULT GARRY!

  382.  
      tRUSTinrocks

    bioclone_ax45 tRUSTinrocks you can place a railing infront of window but you cant shoot over it. Kinda a bug.

  383.  
      bioclone_ax45

    tRUSTinrocks  yeah, i found strange that without adding first the metal bars ingame xD

  384.  
      scecjs

    Nosajxe tRUSTinrocks ollienokes92 Legacy Rust was responsible for nearly 2 million copies sold.  They can sustain themselves for a long, long time with the size of the development team.

  385.  
      tRUSTinrocks

    bioclone_ax45 tRUSTinrocks totally needed since you can enter windows again

  386.  
      bioclone_ax45

    tRUSTinrocks on Legacy we had metal bars… amibe on experimental we can place metal bars/windows… etc?

  387.  
      Rustloversszz

    They should implement this…

  388.  
      bioclone_ax45

    Letho39 bioclone_ax45 yes xD right now using a wall piece from I guess meg’s art

  389.  
      KnuckeDeep

    OK. we all understand that the game is not connecting. No one would even bother to show up on a forum and bash developers of a game they hate. Fact is, even with its flaws this game is fucking awesome and getting better all the time. We got ourselves a hickup in that last patch. do you think the owners that have invested their time and money in the development is just going to pack up and say fuck it? welp they cant connect, lets start a new shit project to piss off gamers! lol because we all know at the core of rust is an aspect of gaming that you dont find to this extent. That is.. revenge fueled by disgust and traitorist alliances. Its sooooo much fucking fun to be your friend and steal your shit! lol

    So lets just calm down and give a little positive feed back.

    I cant play the game right now but I love the new intro load screen. It doesnt blast me with audio and its not laggy. good job.

  390.  
      tRUSTinrocks

    bioclone_ax45 Its a good idead but you can get shot in the face

  391.  
      bioclone_ax45

    tRUSTinrocks bioclone_ax45 Dafuck?

  392.  
      Letho39

    bioclone_ax45 Did you just make that? :D

  393.  
      Rustloversszz

    tRUSTinrocks bioclone_ax45 DEM BIG TITTIES

  394.  
      Nosajxe

    tRUSTinrocks ollienokes92 But can the developers sustain, financially, the new engine whilst no-one is interested and playing on it

  395.  
      Rustloversszz

    bioclone_ax45 TITTIES

  396.  
      bioclone_ax45

    The way I see it… this its the biggest innovation I wanna see about trade:

  397.  
      ollienokes92

    tRUSTinrocks ollienokes92 I know i can but its unfinished.

  398.  
      looksharp

    I ment as its the weekend… or do you think we have to wait until monday

  399.  
      tRUSTinrocks

    ollienokes92 You can still play legacy.

  400.  
      schnatz0r

    Letho39 schnatz0r i’ll try, but at least, i can make that work

  401.  
      Letho39

    schnatz0r calm your titties lol

  402.  
      schnatz0r

    looksharp well no, because the idiots are more interestet to implement a in-game purchase shit, than making a stable version

  403.  
      tRUSTinrocks

    so funny, people getting mad at a early access games.

    Always remember: “We are in early development. Some things work, some things don’t. We haven’t totally decided where the game is headed – so things will change. Things will change a lot. We might even make changes that you think are wrong. But we have a plan. It’s in our interest to make the game awesome – so please trust us.”

    Just dont buy unfinished games if you cant handle changes.

  404.  
      looksharp

    any one know if the server problems are being worked on now ???

  405.  
      ollienokes92

    I hate to say it, but you should of stayed with the old version, and somehow overcome the engines limitations.

  406.  
      Rustloversszz

    GARRY I GOT A PROBLEM HOW DO YOU WALK AND RUN? ME NO JUGDERINO PASTERINO.

  407.  
      wallyrrr

    y r thye nedid
    nekid

  408.  
      Rustloversszz

    RED WILL CONQUERZZZ YOU AALL

  409.  
      wallyrrr

    SOmeone hit me with a rockz

  410.  
      tomadlarge

    AND WHILE YOU CAN’T ENTER SERVER, WHY DON’T YOU GO BUY SOME BLUEPRINT ? SO WHEN YOU BACK IN WAO YOU WILL BE SO STRONG !

  411.  
      KnuckeDeep

    88_MaKc_88 Im glad you brought that up. I tried to use xpadder yesterday and was only able to use the jmouse emulation function on one of the sticks. nothing else worked. disapointing, i was hopping to toggle mouse 1 for building. my damn finger hurts

  412.  
      tomadlarge

    GUYS DON’T WORRY, NEXT UPDATE THEY WILL ADD NEW ROCK SKIN SUCH INTERESTING NEW ADD ON!

  413.  
      MatthewMonarrez

    Im having the same issue only a few servers are popping up and only like 3 community servers are popping up.

  414.  
      88_MaKc_88

    Why the game is not running Xpadder ?

  415.  
      schnatz0r

    and why the hell are you not trying to make this game now stable, before adding new features and stuff?

  416.  
      Pirate2014

    JamesKnapp Pirate2014 they have been down since last night, i dont think they ever will. 14hrs to get a server back up

  417.  
      JamesKnapp

    Pirate2014 JamesKnapp They will figure it out the hard way.

  418.  
      thedudely1

    pachorradas m-p{3} thedudely1 I don’t think he is missing the point. I think you’re missing the point. No matter how many blue prints you have everyone starts on a even playing field.

  419.  
      Pirate2014

    JamesKnapp tbh i just want the servers up at the moment but it seams like they arent interested.

  420.  
      JamesKnapp

    I think selling Blueprints is a bad idea and takes all the fun out of having to hunt for the blueprint. If you want to sell something then sell the product created from the blueprint since it can be stolen or destroyed forcing the consumer to repurchase the item this will eliminate the loss of hunting blueprints because they will eventually still want to make their own item and not have to pay for it.  This is economics 101. example: Apple will not sell the blueprints of an iPhone but will sell you an iPhone.

  421.  
      KnuckeDeep

    Isaac1518 Ya know… if I were a developer struggling with a plethora of issues in a development release that is intended to get your feed back to uncover flaws and bugs and influence new features, I would probably take the rest of the day off and drink beer while enjoying my unreleased functional copy after reading your crap. I would devise a new system of nurishment codenamed “isaac” that involved eating your own shit when in isolated desolate areas. I would release it while drunk and laugh my ass off for a couple of days.

  422.  
      Pirate2014

    why is it now development?

  423.  
      dsr07mm

    Footsteps and building..probably best so far in any games which I saw.

  424.  
      KnuckeDeep

    Taurus Beerbaum I couldnt turn off the sun shafts either and using nvidia console tweaking cant even shut that shit off.

  425.  
      liorroy30

    btw i also just bought the game after playing it last year at a freind and was higly dissapointed seriously fucking broken but fun as shit dayz is better than this

  426.  
      liorroy30

    add some cities that spawn by semsself with spawning generated loot, the map is to big, add some mods like hunger game and arena. the game is to laggy and to much like vannila minecraft right now and it lost the charm and raids of the old version. love xxx_billy_xxx (sory for my american english)

  427.  
      ScottBeeson

    Keep up the great work!

  428.  
      Weedlocks

    TheCrazeCreator nothing your a rust uncensored nude start is quite normal I think add pants to censorship it’s working over who would serve nothing because 80/90% of people playing without censorship
    Original version 
    rien ne vos un rust non censuré, commencer nue est tout a fait normal je trouve que rajouter un pantalon pour la censure c’est du travaille en plus qui ne servirais a rien car 80/90% des gens jouais sans la censure

  429.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    that new updade SUCKS, you not even can´t turn off via F2 that FAWKING bluring effekt -.-

  430.  
      bioclone_ax45

    TheCrazeCreator already on progress

  431.  
      Pirate2014

    Firstly, get the serverrs working then chat…

  432.  
      Pirate2014

    ScarfaceCapone Its still pay to win. Just make it so we can find it not buy it.

  433.  
      TheCrazeCreator

    When the game is done, please add one more thing, add the pants censor thing from legacy!! PLEASE like this if you want this to be rust or follow or IDK JUST PLEASE ADD IT. We can turn it off and on like normal. There isn’t that much pain in doing so. Alot of people liked it like me.

  434.  
      ScarfaceCapone

    Why not make it that with the blue print you find  for the market place increases the chance of finding it in the real world by X amount. Cosmetic you can make off the bat.()

    I see that people don’t want noobs joining a server with elitist shit. I think we also need to understand how are resources going to be obtained in the long run, are certain things going to be only obtainable in different biomes, You should have thought about this because a lot of people wont see any further then how they are playing right now, which is a lot of resources obtained really quickly. I get that this isn’t   what it will be like in the future and its going to be a lot harder to make cool stuff. Heh the chaos

  435.  
      Exylex

    Also think marketplace is stupid, you can already share blueprints in game. This just ruin some of the fun by removing the challange of getting blueprints. This game should be challenging, not pay 2 win, and letting some people on new servers already have all blueprints while some have to find them first. Please Rust team, listen on player opinion… We are the ones that paid you to develop it.

  436.  
      Tengo

    Is the texture-bug fixed? I mean the problem, that you can see throug the corner, if you build two walls side-by-side with a angle between 90° and 180°. The problem is, that booth vertical planks are hidden, if the angle isn’t exact 90°. So isn’t funny to build.

  437.  
      pawelnikeee

    Bad, Very Bad, Big Bad, We don’t want to buy things market. it’s stupid. People go to sell steam account.

  438.  
      Yesnoyesno

    Fuck this blueprint system! It’s completly bullshit.
    Even if its just 2 cents or less for a single blueprint it is still money and thats how pay 2 win is created. 
    We don’t wanna pay for blueprints, yes we don’t even want to have the possibilty to pay for it, because although I won’t buy a single blueprint, someone else is doing it for sure so it is just a question of time still some guys got all blueprints after a short time. I have to say that I really hate this idea and that I don’t want to play a game that support pay 2 win. This is disgusting and I want you to remove this idea because I’m sure most Rust players don’t want this system, just like you can read in these comments section. I could imagine a system which is based on trading blueprints, but not on buying or selling blueprints. Just trading. This will works much better and so you can see that people will have to find out which blueprint is worth how much. For example you want a good weapon blueprint, so you have to give more blueprints for it, like a shirt blueprint and a boots blueprint. Thats way more realistic for Rust then paying for blueprints.

  439.  
      AlexandreMotta

    palleh Life is feudal looks GREAT! The problem is I don’t have all that time and Rust looked more casual for me. No skills etc. But I guess I’ll give it a try soon enough. Though it is crazy expensive…

  440.  
      ScarfaceCapone

    I think this rage is coming from the fact that the game has no real foundation yet, its not playable to the extent legacy was, and we now discussing about selling buying things for real money. I see so much that still needs to be done before this can even be possible? or am I seeing the game at a different stage the developers see it?

    Are you just fed up with rust, and just want to create a system where it is more community driven, so you make some tools and the rest is up to the people who paid you for it?

    Because the progression of the game seems to have slowed down a lot again since people started playing and we moved over to the new system, it took a week to get the “new stone hatchet textures in” honestly I don’t really care about how stuff looks at this point, I care more about core mechanics , and stuff to do right now their isn’t much to do.(so why even discuss the blue print thing now) There is so much more work to be done, (I saw you got Occulus SDK2). is this even worth toying with yet?
    You increased the houses strength by ten fold, but then gave us nothing to actually break down these houses with.

    You implemented Keys, and yet nothing else to fix the issues players are having with them?

    We need a basic system that works for now, so you can play the game and have a little fun while waiting for the updates, I also think it should not be weekly but a monthly  Patch so you guys can really test your shit first, create a Q A from that month and then carry on really get everyone involved I like what your doing just some things  I don’t agree with.

    What do you want from us? Rust for me could be that game that makes all games, but its a long way from being that. I hated Dayz I dont like the mechanics how it felt, its a shit game(Trolls attack here). 

    When I played Rust, I fell in love with it. but as of late,  it feels more like its flowing towards the latter than what rust was…

    let the raging commence.

  441.  
      JakubFeltl

    Why the market thingy? Oh I forgot they dont have enough money -_-

  442.  
      KillerMiller897

    Do you think it would be possible to fix some bugs in legacy mode? i realize you are working pretty much on only regular rust, but considering baseline is still pretty far away, it is possible you could to that? thanks!

  443.  
      Weedlocks

    What scares me is that at first he listen communauter to believe he does not care about our opinions. With so much negative opinion I hope you will redécendre land and Rust Making that player and not wait for a Second garry mods shit
    original version 
    Ce qui me fait peur c’est que au début il écouter la communauter a croire qu’il se fiche de nos avis. Avec autant d’avis défavorable j’espere que vous allez redécendre sur terre et Faire de Rust ce que les joueur attende et pas un Second garry mods de merde

  444.  
      KillerMiller897

    Do you think it would be possible to fix some bugs in legacy mode? i realize you are working pretty much on only regular rust, but considering baseline is still pretty far away, it is possible you could to that? thanks!

  445.  
      Isaac1518

    yea I know

  446.  

    Isaac1518 Read comments below … Before say something everyone got that error

  447.  
      Isaac1518

    WHY THE FUCKING DEV TEAM IS NOT WORKING ON THE FUCKING SERVER,IT ALREADY BROKE SINCE YESTERDAY.DO YOUR JOB YOU PIECE OF SHIT.

  448.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    Pickman226 read comments below mate

  449.  
      Pickman226

    Is anyone else having this promblem my rust will not even start up it gives me this error

  450.  
      Weedlocks

    PopeNofun Basically garry says that Rust is a pay to win her become abuse if this happens I ask the immedia refund, I am disappointed with the turn of Rust me who will play virtually since its release I feel like betrayed

    Original Version 
    En  gros garry nous dit que Rust sera un pay to win sa deviens abuser si ceci arrive je demanderais le remboursement immedia , je suis déçu de la tournure de Rust moi qui suis se jeux depuis pratiquement sa sortie je me sens comme trahi

  451.  
      palleh

    Well rust is dead. Join Life is Feudal if you want to have fun. With all this “Steam Marketplace” idiocy I’m not playing personally. There is no point in starting a new server AND there is no point buying and selling things when the amount of craftable items is so limited. It won’t take long to collect literally every item out there. The only way a steam marketplace idea would work is if they only did it for ascetics you could add to your things. make your walls look different or different looking outfits etc etc.

  452.  
      Mr_Long

    i CANT PLAY RUST! 
    whenever I want to play on a server it tells me disconnect .
    and since yesterday evening CET
    PLS fix it!!!!!

  453.  
      metabletforres

    So your using a beta of Unity.
    That is really stupid for a game you have the public playing & more important paying for!
    So every issues with RUST your saying is Unity!

    I don’t think so mate.

  454.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    mbarnett25 i see already my house, if garrys plan take effect.  house with 4 lvl6 walls each corner and 4 lvl6 doors… -.-

  455.  
      PopeNofun

    I’m gonna quote Garry and attempt to actually address his specific argument:
    “It’s important to us that there’s no losers in this situation. This is what the Steam Inventory system does. Everyone involved wins. Even when you look at the most exploitative situation, a guy spending hundreds of dollars to buy all the blueprints.. he’s still got to go in the game and get the resources to be able to craft the items. And even then you could kill him with a rock and take all the stuff he’s made.”

    How are there no losers here? How am I not disadvantaged by not being able to craft a long list of armor and weapons? Yes, there are OTHER ways of breaking even:
    -selling my steam inventory to buy shit for “free”
    -hunting people and taking their equipment (NOT blueprints)
    -joining custom servers

    But Garry, Steam inventory is a HASSLE for me, not a feature. I don’t WANT to sell my items to get ahead in Rust. And being able to kill people for their stuff doesn’t make it even, and I certainly don’t “win” in that scenario. That guy, who spent a hundred dollars on blueprints, having to find materials doesn’t make it even. He spent money and can better arm/armor himself than me, given the same amount of time spent and blueprints found normally. 
    Steam-inventory for blueprints at all sounds awful, so I’m not exactly looking forward to opting out of via private servers, and dealing with a split community.
    Please reconsider.

  456.  
      mbarnett25

    I don’t want people standing outside my door begging me for blueprints, I don’t want people in rust chat begging me for blueprints, I don’t want people in steam begging me for blueprints.  I DON’T LIKE GREEN EGGS AND HAM!

  457.  
      DJREX

    tomadlarge admin33 
    “your idiots lol”
    >your idiots
    >your
    Pretty sure you mean “you’re” and you say this is an intelligent person tom? but I digress, it seems once again no one has taken the time to actually read the devblog so here I am again to explain to you ignorant pleebs,
    “We also appreciate that not every server wants people taking their
    ‘global’ blueprints with them so will make sure they can choose
    global/local inventories.” Straight from the top o’ the devblog. TL:DR It is optional and ultimately up to the owner of the server to enable/disable the ability to have items from others servers.

  458.  
      Aaron13ps

    Taurus Beerbaum EinNetzgeist I think it should not be marketable.

  459.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    mbarnett25 CryFoX yes… it will destroy your gameplay

  460.  
      mbarnett25

    CryFoX omg   I just realized the game will now be full of beggars…

  461.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    EinNetzgeist and… i like to play it as survival, and not pay for rare blueprints. the way you get blueprints at legacy is not so bad, and u can trade it… ok,  noone will get more money, but btw. i already spend alot money for this game !!!

  462.  
      EinNetzgeist

    Can we please simplify this text:

    I own a Rust license. I want to play that game and I want to be able to get the best weapons, armor, live in the strongest kind of house and have all item processing factories. I want my avatar to be able to do all of this on his own. How much additional money do you want for that?

  463.  
      PopeNofun

    AlexandreMotta Subza ScarfaceCapone
    Very much this.
    I don’t want money getting mixed into my experience, on ANY level, especially where I’ll have to run and hide to select private servers to avoid it.
    I could rant about how I think steam-inventory drops for craftable items is stupid REGARDLESS of trading, but that’s less infuriating. I LOVE rust, in spite of a number of design choices I really disagree with. The game doesn’t need to cater to my every whim.
    Letting players buy the ability to craft military weapons, however, is not something I’m willing to deal with. I’m beyond tired of f2p nonsense, and I’m not going to deal with even a hint of it in a game I paid $20 for. The end. 
    I hope Garry reconsiders. Otherwise, I’ll be playing on our server until it’s implemented, then promptly uninstalling and turning off the server.

  464.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    Pirate2014 in my list are 4 servers on total… thats a joke, a bad joke ;)

  465.  
      Pirate2014

    guys some servers are back up, for now. Not the official.

  466.  
      Pirate2014

    pawelnikeee Seams like he trolled us to buy the game dont you think.

  467.  
      pawelnikeee

    Garry is trolling. lol

  468.  
      Pirate2014

    tomadlarge admin33 Its not at this rate. Yeah they have had good ideas but buying blueprints outside of the game. Its basically like playing FIFA but a survival. Its a bad idea. I wouldnt even consider buying a server because of the problems they are making. Yes, they are trying to improve it but this isnt helping.

  469.  
      AlexandreMotta

    Pirate2014 AlexandreMotta Taurus Beerbaum I’m not getting kicked. I simply cannot join. It looks like there should be an update to the client, but it’s not working

  470.  
      Pirate2014

    Garry please can you stop fucking the servers over and do something.

  471.  
      Pirate2014

    AlexandreMotta Taurus Beerbaum nope, just keeps kicking everyone. Getting really annoyed at this point because even though we are getting kicked its not for a valid reason such as an update or lag reduction, its just purely kicking everyone for no reason. Thanks.

  472.  
      AlexandreMotta

    dervonz It’s kind of funny, actually.
    Drop the pay2win bomb and break the game at the same time, so everyone has all the time to complain. If Garry was smart he’d tell us he’s going p2w while adding some great new feature so everyone’s playing to test.

  473.  
      Weedlocks

    WTF is this shit you can not connect to games, there are two choices available to you whether you’re Garry rekeying you and your team or rust or fall to water damage if you leave a good games get bogged down because your update are increasingly buggy the games and more people unplayable plays less what are you going to do against the desertion of your games because of a lax from your team STOP creating Debug the games are in full. is a stage he already has a good potential then pls debug the games and also ask your team to begin to translate your message because I lose patience have always write in English because I am very bad in this language
    Original version 
    WTF c’est quoi ce bordel on ne peut pas se connecter au jeux , il y a deux choix qui s’offre a vous Garry soit tu te ressaisie toi et ton équipe ou soit rust tombera a l’eau dommage que vous laisser un si bon jeux s’enliser car vos mise a jour sont de plus en plus bugué le jeux et des plus en plus injouable les gens y joue de moins en moins qu’allez vous faire contre la désertion de votre jeux a cause d’un laxisme de la part de vos équipe STOP la création Debug le jeux de font en comble. a sont stade il a déjà un bon potentiel alors pls debug le jeux et demander aussi a vos équipe de commencer a traduire vos message car je perd patience a devoir toujours écrire en anglais car je suis très mauvais dans cette langue

  474.  
      AlexandreMotta

    Taurus Beerbaum AlexandreMotta All the servers appear empty for me, but since not everyone is complaining, I think maybe some people are playing.

  475.  
      tomadlarge

    admin33 a friend of mine already closed a his server on experimental, when he read this devblog blueprint news he just said ” this game just going to become bad adding this, not worth playing it anymore or paying a server “

  476.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    AlexandreMotta Taurus Beerbaum its a major problem atm. look at the servers, noone can play :(

  477.  
      tomadlarge

    admin33 finally an intelligent person

  478.  
      admin33

    ok those of you supporting the whole blueprint idea, your idiots lol. This is why only kids play TF2 anymore and CS:GO is nothing but comps. This will not make players work together more in fact will be exact opposite, it will cause players to be greedy as hell and take more from everyone to earn a few extra cents on the market. Seriously people you need to think on this horrible idea!

    If this happens, my community will drop our server and move into other games, this is a BS move and only those who actually have experienced this with other games know it.

    Gary you better wise up before you ruin your game!

  479.  
      AlexandreMotta

    Taurus Beerbaum I also can’t join. Is anyone playing the game right now? I want to know if this is a general problem or not, so I can reinstall the game if need be…

  480.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    CryFoX right, i think the same. and as i wrote, this should be not the issue of these days. enough other issues to fix first :)

  481.  
      Taurus Beerbaum

    i read this page , bcs im boring atm, bcs… I CANT JOIN ANY SERVER ! wtf are these plans about selling blueprints ? it would be great if you fix first your server/game connection problems before you thing of other issues. thats really a joke, i can live with many issues of the game… the missing textures at the hatchet, the problem with the door blueprint to place, that verry terrible anoying sound of walking on sand, the animals that run into a stone, and and and…its ok… BUT that you can not even join server, bcs you make something wrong with the last update… make me pissed. i hope you find a solution QUICK !!! thank you

  482.  
      CryFoX

    I dont mind the idea of the blueprints, I just with we didnt have to do it with the very immersion kill steam trading interface.
    you would also have to know the players name if they are begging at your doorstep or something, I think this kills a few chances for
    good player interaction (think raiders holding up a house for blueprints if knowledge becomes valuable). I would rather have some sort of
    in game trading system, the steam one sucks, is slow, and very in-immersive

  483.  
      tomadlarge

    GatisMihnevics tomadlarge rust is a survival ! what is the add on for a survival game to can buy things from nothing? it’s not more realistic finding them already in the game without this market bullshit?

  484.  
      dervonz

    I think the servers are updated already.. but the client update via Steam is missing.. thats the reason we cannot play atm

  485.  
      AlexandreMotta

    Salaawa EnricoLanzi dervonz I can’t play, also. I thought the game was broken for everyone. Is anyone playing? Is there a solution? If there are people playing, I might try to reinstall.

  486.  
      Salaawa

    EnricoLanzi dervonz So glad I am not the only one.

  487.  
      dogeeee

    Why are people so mad about their dick size trust Garry!!! He’s more hung then us! I follow big chief bitch

  488.  
      EnricoLanzi

    dervonz I can not since yesterday night

  489.  
      Leignheart

    Your statement is one based in ignorance. You most likely have never been shot or stabbed before yet i doubt you would get in line to be stabbed or shot. Do you know why? Because you know the end result is not good. Which is why people do not like the blueprint system, because the end result is not good. We have enough information to know that.

  490.  
      AlexandreMotta

    Subza AlexandreMotta ScarfaceCapone I know Garry has a reputation, but for me it’s hard not to worry. Anyone who’s into games has seen this a lot. Sales slow down, then some stupid hat makes a lot of money. The temptation to just make a lot of money overnight with p2w is always there.
    And creating “hardcore” servers in a social game is always terrible. Non-global servers will attract competitive, experienced, PvP-oriented players. New, cooperative, less skilled players will keep to global servers after they’re instakilled in hardcore servers. It splits the playerbase, it changes the experience.

  491.  
      dervonz

    can anyone connect to the servers??

  492.  
      Dokusi

    So its gonna be PTW… Well, Im going to sell my steam account for 1 dollar, turn into a pigeon and escape life forever

  493.  
      Subza

    AlexandreMotta ScarfaceCapone I see where your coming from but will the game really be that pay to win?, pretty much the same item with “jiggled attributes”, and lets admit it most of the items are going to be 3c not longer after they are released, and if all goes wrong and those “jiggled attributes” are massive advantages then just play a server that has them disabled. I trust if the blueprint system is a flop Garry will fix it.

  494.  
      GatisMihnevics

    tomadlarge STFU!people like you pissing me off,you havent done a thing for a game and play’d only 500 h ,but whining like bitch!
    Legacy is broken and not fun,not any more because now days most players are anti social cs:go players-shoot first talk laiter,thats not what rust is about you ignorant and thats what Garry and he’s team whants to fix!

  495.  
      tomadlarge

    OK LETS TRY RUST AGAIN NOW, LETS TRY THIS ” INTERESTING ” NEW BANDAGE , AND LETS WALK ON SAND LISTENING LIKE IT WAS ROCK, GETTING A WOLF SKULL FROM A DEER!

  496.  
      tomadlarge

    Mattikush tomadlarge Subza ty sir, ahahaha i just realized web people read u just if u bother them :-D

  497.  
      AlexandreMotta

    ScarfaceCapone There’s another way to earn (much more) money with your time: work. When I’m playing, I don’t want to get paid. Because getting paid means another guys is paying to have an unfair advantage.
    Who cares about getting the 20 bucks back? I paid that to have fun and play a balanced game. If anything I’d pay another 20 bucks to keep the p2w bs out of the game. 
    And let us not forget that a chunck of that money goes to Garry and Steam. So it’s not like they have no interest in this.

  498.  
      Mattikush

    tomadlarge Subza You didn’t type in all caps, bravo sir.

  499.  
      tomadlarge

    Subza tomadlarge i think they sowed a lot of stuff really a lot back in time, and the only reason we didnt see those things yet, reading this devblog, it’s because they thinked this blueprint a long time ago, u bet?

  500.  
      Mattikush

    ScarfaceCapone Thank you! Not enough are realizing this. Gary actually wants people to get something tangible out of the game! (If they so desire) I actually haven’t seen this much compassion from a game designer, ever! This has HUGE societal and economic potential for rust and video games as a whole. Talk about smart, basically turning all his players into little micro-entrepreneurs.  That’d be like if all the people who played WoW got .00004 cent for very creep they killed.

  501.  
      Subza

    tomadlarge That logic, holy dix

  502.  
      lumariousthelion

    tomadlarge Think about this before you rage. This system isn’t even in place yet. YOUR GAME LITERALLY HASN’T CHANGED .01%

  503.  
      tomadlarge

    FOR EXAMPLE, THEY POSTED SCREENS OF BAZOOK SORT A LIKE WEAPON MONTHS A GO! WHY THEY NOT PUBLISHED YET? LET ME GUESS. PROBABLY RARE BLUEPRINT ABOUT IT AND WANT TO EARN SOME MONEY LATER ON WITH THIS SYSTEM ? I BET HELL YEAH

  504.  
      lumariousthelion

    Mattikush IllbarcodellI tomadlarge Hah If only people were open minded enough to wait it out, and talk calmly and constructively about this topic, we’d already have a solution! So that’s what I’m gonna spend my brain power thinking about. A better way lol

  505.  
      ScarfaceCapone

    Why is everyone splurging out insane juice?

    This is a good thing , you get paid to play basically means the guys who spend 100’s of hours will actually be able to do something with the time spent, it also means team play is going to be a lot more important since, certain people will have things you need.

    What does fuck me off is the lack of feedback from the developers globally, its like you guys listen to 3 people’s posts and just ignore the rest, so why allow comments and suggestions in the first place if you just going to throw a big fuck you to the rust of us?

  506.  
      tomadlarge

    AND I’M SO ANGRY AND HATEFULL JUST CUZ I LOVE THIS GAME, AND WATCHING IT GET RUINED BUT HIS CREATOR ITSELF BEFORE EVEN IT GETS BETA, REALLY MAKES ME SAD

  507.  
      lumariousthelion

    tomadlarge lumariousthelion Dude. Chill. Lol That’s what I’m saying… -_-

  508.  
      Mattikush

    IllbarcodellI tomadlarge *remember this is only a ALPHA game* fixed. =)

  509.  
      tomadlarge

    lumariousthelion tomadlarge EHY, HE JUST SAW AND CANCELLED WORDS! NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS! HE NOT SAID ” OK PEOPLE REALLY ANGRY FOR THIS THING, LETS CANCEL IT AND BACK TO NORMAL “. NO. HE JUST CANCELLED SOME WORDS, SO HE CAN GO ON WITH IT ANYWAY

  510.  
      lumariousthelion

    tomadlarge You do realized that he’s seeing all the crazy shit we are posting and has changed his words because of it? Don’t say that we aren’t influencing this game. Because that’s just simply not true.

  511.  
      tomadlarge

    THE PROBLEM ITS THAT THIS EARLY ACCES GAME INVOLVE NOTHING SUGGESTED BY PLAYERS, IF DEVELOPERS WOULD REALLY LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE WRITE AND FEEDBACK, THEY WOULD NEVER, I SAY NEVER, THINK OR DO THIS TYPE OF THINGS LIKE BLUEPRINT FAIL NEW SYSTEM. EARLY ACCES, EXPERIMENTAL, IT’S A LIE SO THAT PEOPLE THINK THEY COUNT SOMETHING, AT THE END THEY WILL DO THE FUK THEY WANT FOR MAKING MORE MONEY, CUZ WORLD IS LIKE THIS NOWDAY, GET EVERYTHING U CAN BEFORE THE BOAT SINK!

  512.  
      IllbarcodellI

    tomadlarge IllbarcodellI
    Remember this is only a game. And if people complains all the time, i hope the comments once again gets disabled. There is no need being disrespectfull. The dev team, can do what ever they want with the game. We just bought an alpha access. Its not even beta yet. Stuff changes all the time. Some times its 50% who likes a new idea, some times its more. All can not be satisfied at once.

  513.  
      lumariousthelion

    AlexandreMotta TheBestJohnEvar I think he realized his mistake. We will not tolerate a Pay to Win. But really it’s his game. Musta realized how many people would be pissed off. Lol just be happy he did shamelessly change his words. We gotta keep him in check sometimes xD xP

  514.  
      tomadlarge

    IllbarcodellI CANT I SAY WHAT I THINK?

  515.  
      IllbarcodellI

    If these hate comments keep comming, the comments will be disabled again. And with a good reason. You should all be ashamed of yourself.

  516.  
      tomadlarge

    I DON’T GET WHY I SHOULD PAY A GAME AND THEN HAVE TO PAY LATER TOO FOR THINGS! AND I DONT GET WHY SHOULD I HAVE ALOMOST 500 HOURS IN THIS GAME, AND BE TREATED LIKE FOOL LIKE THIS! THIS IS NOT RUST, THIS EXPERIMENTAL ITS THE RUIN OF RUST ITSLEF!

  517.  
      IllbarcodellI

    tomadlarge
    Maybe stop hate speech…

  518.  
      tomadlarge

    WOW GARRY , GOOD JOB KEEP CANCELLING MY POSTS!

  519.  
      lumariousthelion

    V7ad AlexandreMotta I think there’s a possibility it could work if we did have a catalog of blue prints that people can just straight up buy from. THAT would be bull sh!t! You should always have to find blue prints in-game before they can be traded for another blue print. The more I think about this, it seems that eliminating money from the system would just make it way more balanced. The unfair advantage is always gonna be there if you don’t have to go get it in-game!

  520.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    AlexandreMotta Why Garry, why?

  521.  
      AlexandreMotta

    TheBestJohnEvar Yes, he changed it. At first it said you could buy a C4 blueprint. Now he’s saying what people want to hear. Shameless: http://puu.sh/cgcSS/606fb5604f.jpg

  522.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    You changed the post to colthes and deleted the C4 part. But you are going to be able to trade C4 right? What a shame…

  523.  
      AlexandreMotta

    V7ad AlexandreMotta Again, paying to have an advantage is always pay to win. Pay to win doesn’t mean you will necessarily win if you pay, and of course you can totally or only partially ruin a game with that. Starting from scratch is one of the main things that made Rust famous. So yeah, people don’t want a newborn to be able to craft C4 after 10 minutes of resource gathering.
    The “but you can kill him and get his stuff” is exactly what the developers from WarZ said. We know how that turned out. Oh, they also said there would be alternative servers…
    The bad thing about creating two tiers of servers is that you split the player base. Non-global servers will be regarded as “hardcore” and attract experienced, PvP-oriented players. Cooperative, less skilled players will tend to keep to global servers after being instakilled in hardcore servers. It will change the experience.

  524.  
      IllbarcodellI

    Urme AlexandreMotta lumariousthelion
    Totally respectless. Thsi is not okay.

  525.  
      lumariousthelion

    Urme Okay dude. That’s just uncalled for and childish. Try and be more constructive next time you bother to post something. We are discussing the future of a potentially awesome or unbalanced game right now. So please….

  526.  
      lumariousthelion

    Bouffa AlexandreMotta lumariousthelion ooops deleted the post… well it is kinda suspicious, but this is alpha, and he’s trying to figure out what’s gonna work. But yes. I think there’s a better way to do this whole blue print thingy. No problem can be solved from the same state of mind it was conceived in. We all gotta chill about this lol. There must be a way! lol I’d just hate to see Rust ruined over some stupid blue prints, and I doubt it will be.

  527.  
      Urme

    AlexandreMotta lumariousthelion Yes Garry now want to make RUst a money making factory, he is a faggot !

  528.  
      Bouffa

    AlexandreMotta lumariousthelion Indeed, Very suspicious.

  529.  
      V7ad

    AlexandreMotta V7ad How is this pay to win? you still need to gather the resources, take the risk of dieing, getting killed by animals or simply get your stuff stolen. its just a motivation that players dont HAVE to start from scratch over and over again and why are you all ignoring the fact that the server-owner can decide if use gloabal bp or server pb ?

  530.  
      AlexandreMotta

    lumariousthelion It’s shady behaviour regardless. He’s editing his posts, he’s changing what he said. It feels like he’s hiding something. Of course, the backlash was HUGE, So now he will say what people want to hear.
    But in his first post he described how you could buy freaking C4 blueprints. http://puu.sh/cgcSS/606fb5604f.jpg
    Then he edited and tried to control the damage. This exactly how things happened with WarZ. Of course it’s unlikely that Rust will ever be as bad as that was, but it’s not a good sign.

  531.  
      Bouffa

    Mattikush I agree on the part where the “Blue print factor” adds so much more to the game, with the dodgy trades like you mention etc. I just don’t see the point in having them as steam items, I don’t want another game i’m lashing out money towards to add more feel to the game. Please stick to the original Gary :c Either way ill play it and have fun. Thanks

  532.  
      Salaawa

    That’s OK. You don’t have to read. It is my opinion, laddie. Just as you have your’s.

  533.  
      Salaawa

    That’s OK. You don’t have to read. It is my opinion, laddie. Just as you have your’s.

  534.  
      V7ad

    Salaawa this stupidness is too much for me.gonna go take a shit now. hope garry won´t listen to fucking 12y old rage kids.

  535.  
      Mattikush

    STEAM INVENTORY WOULD BE SERVER OPTIONAL!! HELLO!!! LEARN TO READ BEFORE BEING PAY2WIN TROLL!! YOU PENNY PINCHING SHEEP!!!
                     Sorry about that. Before I begin, I would just like to note I put some thought into this essay before posting and also Garry is the man. Garry is love. Gary is life; but PLEASE TAKE NOTE!
     An Essay On
                                                            “The Blue-Print Factor”
                 What’s fun for one player in Rust may not be for another, and that’s the beauty. Something that was the great equalizer in the game was “The Blue-Print Factor”. Starting with basic construction knowledge and a rock was the great allure of Legacy. . It was one of the things that made people go out and explore as oppose to stay in their base and farm for resources. It provoked teamwork and cooperation among individuals to either trade them, look for them, or kill animals. They were an in-game currency! People would post in global; “Trading pistol bp for shotty bp!” So you’d have players conducting nerve-racking trades where they didn’t know the other player’s intentions. This dynamic between players has only been seen in MMORPGs’ and not even to that extent. The intense feeling of looting rad-town while on the lookout for danger is no more, but I have not lost hope. The feeling will come back, but in what form I am not sure.
              Obviously if the blueprints are in the steam inventory Facepunch will need to reinvent the “blue-print factor” into something else. I can only guess that they have some wonderful new idea planned to replace it. If they don’t they should probably go back to what worked in Legacy. I don’t mind the steam inventory, I’ve never met Gary but i can assure if you he’s not just thinking about that new Ferrari (although I would be). The introduction of this system gives somewhat less hostile-minded players the ability to get a good head start. Although to incorporate a system that has received a decent amount of negative feedback would look somewhat bad on a spotless Facepunch record. That’s just from an customer’s point of view.
                   In conclusion, if blue prints are stored in steam, there will need to be some new game play elements thought up to compensate for what “The blue print factor” did to game play. Thanks to Gary and the rest of Facepunch for the good times I’ve had playing rust already and all the community work they do. Thanks to whoever read this too. Thanks for anyADULT feedback as well.

  536.  
      tomadlarge

    I SAID NOTHING WHEN THEY ADDED THE FUCKING, USELESS LOOT SYSTEM, WHEN YOU CAN FUKIN STEAL EVERYTHING FROM A PLAYER IN A HOUSE JUST LOOKING HIS INVENTORY FORM OUTSIDE A HOUSE, OK I SAID, THIS IS A BUG THEY WILL SOLVE, O MAYBE U WILL BE ABLE TO SEE AND STEAL INVENTORY ONLY FROM SLEEPING PEOPLE LATER ON, BUT NOW, THIS FUKING NO SENSE BLUEPRINT SYSTEM, THIS IS THE RUIN OF RUST CONCEPT, TOTALLY USELESS, ONYL FOR THE DOLLA DOLLAR BILLS. SHAME ON GARRY NEWMAN, U THINK PEOPLE IS STUPID? I HOPE SOMEONE WILL START A PETITION LIKE FOR STOMPING LAND AND KICK OUT OF STEAM THIS SHIT

  537.  
      AlexandreMotta

    V7ad AlexandreMotta How old are you? Really, have some respect. Your quote is not a fact. Every single developer who introduces pay to win elements will say it the revenue will not be relevant, that they’re thinking about the players etc. Only they’re not, they want more money.
    I don’t know if you’re new to early access/alpha games. But there’s a reason people are worried.

  538.  
      Salaawa

    Wasn’t Rust Experimental to be some grand vision developed with the Community and now you spew forth this commercial bullshit?! What the fuck? I made this account solely for this; players need the resources, but what good are resources WITHOUT THE CASH TO BUY THE FUCKING BLUEPRINTS?!!

  539.  
      lumariousthelion

    RustyRust lumariousthelion Achti Well then you can just join a server that doesn’t support accout-linked blue prints! Do you really think Garry is gonna fukc everyone over with this new system? He never has done anything stupid like that before, as far as I’m aware of :D

  540.  
      AlexandreMotta

    V7ad It’s also in his own interest to earn a lot of money.

  541.  
      V7ad

    For fucks sake, stop crying like a little bitch. If this new bp-system is gonna be shit, garry is gonna change it in the right way. 

    Its in his own interest not to fuck with the community, and without him, we wouldnt have rust at all. So fucking stop bitching around and have some t-rust.

  542.  
      AlexandreMotta

    MrMoustacheLive It’s appalling that he simply removed the C4 mention! This kind of shady behaviour is EXACTLY how WarZ went downhill.
    Yesterday I though I was crazy. I was sure I had read C4 and people were saying “it will probably be cosmetic items”. 
    What a shame! Editing posts to hide your true intentions…
    This game is done!

  543.  
      MrMoustacheLive

    http://puu.sh/cgcSS/606fb5604f.jpg Here is a push of the original post (because Garry modify it with clothes (ah ah! no balls) for less impacting post) But remember that if this new trade system come true, it will be effective for weapons, and every item that you cannot craft at the beginning.

  544.  
      PuckeN

    ye. imma soo soo sad right now. :’/

  545.  
      LordNik1

    Dear Garry Newman, please get rid of the steam workshop blueprints thingy, it breaks the game and we don’t like it

  546.  
      lukeyyyyy

    What a shame, the sense of achievement will soon be diminished Ill stick with Legacy this change will definitely encourage players to stick with legacy, luckily for us other game developers have seen the success of rust and jumped on the bandwagon so I am sure we will see similar games appear on the horizon which with a bit of luck won’t follow with this pay-to-win money making scheme.

  547.  
      Red82

    Urme marcusravenheart  For some one that claims to have a lot of money. You are sure not smart with it. And your a really big bully to threat a developer to sue them because the $20.00 dollar game is not what you hoped. For. If you have that much Money, Hire some one and make the Game that you want.

  548.  
      AlexandreMotta

    Hey, Garry. I’m afraid you screwed things up quite a bit. Throwing the pay to win bomb AND breaking the game at the same time? This is the biggest backlash I’ve seen in a small game since War Z. It’s all over the web.

    Give up this terrible marketplace idea. There are other gold mines in this game that don’t mess with core game mechanics.
    Introduce penis enlargement pills for 5$. I’m sure it would make you rich(er).

  549.  
      tomadlarge

    RUST OFFICIALLY DEAD , TY FUCKIN GARRY NEWMAN

  550.  
      AlexandreMotta

    TyfE edmundos99 What are you saying? Almost every game works like that. Except poker sites, maybe. You buy “credits” or whatever and then use them to buy items. If anything, the fact that it works like that brings it CLOSER to pay to win games.
    The fact that other players are “selling” you stuff doesn’t change a thing, since Steam and game devs keep the real money anyway.

  551.  
      tweetblanchy

    Unity 5 issue is easy to fix! The issue is caused by a file being named the same in different languages, E.G a file called game.js and a file called game.cs conflict and make the game not work any more, rename one of them and it should fix it!

  552.  
      AvengerJohn

    Its not funny if you can just buy all blueprints and you are unbeatable on all servers. Old way is better, pay-to-win sucks.

  553.  
      AlexandreMotta

    TyfE Well, you have to agree Garry wasn’t very smart either…
    1. Introduce the idea of a pay to win marketplace in what was supposed to be a brutal survival game (we all know how people hate that). Through a post full of half ass excuses.
    2. Break the game and give players all the time to rage all over the web
    It’s not surprising that people are raging “WarZ all over again!”. There’s HUGE backlash to this post. And the guy is gone, the game is not working… 

    How to kill your game with one blog post.

  554.  
      Sneak100

    “why not fix all the server issues  LIKE NOT BEING ABLE TO CONNECT TO ANY OF THEM its been 10 hours” SAME HERE

  555.  

    How else is this game going to get done?

  556.  
      AlexandreMotta

    BANBANASTE There’s one use for tradable blueprints: it gives them money. The feature adds nothing to Rust. It makes no sense if you take away the money. It doesn’t fit the game mechanics etc.

    So it’s hard to believe there was any other reason besides greed in this decision. I hope I’m wrong, but…

  557.  
      dystospigeon

    I can see boxes and keys coming, as well as people spending thousands of dollars to uncrate stuff and cosmetics and other crap…

  558.  
      Urme

    marcusravenheart grimmjow450 Hey look the garry kiss asser is replying on every post where the community says this shit move is wrong.

  559.  
      Urme

    Zero Fox FK And you shouldn’t waste time sucking Garry’s dick .

  560.  
      BANBANASTE

    i don’t understand the UTILITY of tradable blueprints it’s perfect in the legacy if u whant to give a BP to your friend you just throw it on the grown.
    the steps sound are strange in snow :/

  561.  
      AlexandreMotta

    Pongard It’s simple. Does a clan system give them money? No. So then it’s all about survival. But adding a pay to win marketplace? Sure!

  562.  
      WillMcmanus

    why not fix all the server issues  LIKE NOT BEING ABLE TO CONNECT TO ANY OF THEM its been 10 hours

  563.  
      Barrotes

    So much for “buy a full game”

  564.  
      Pongard

    I don’t like the trading card idea. The whole game is so much about survival, you decided against support for a clan system, a friends system, … but now you want to implement a fully autmoated trade market? I don’t think this fits for the game.

    User made items should be ok if they get implemented in the main game seamless by you guys, but also if that’s not the case I’m against that too.

  565.  
      Weglow

    I think this Marketplace idea could be amazing if people were not able to pay to have some blueprints. But since everyone can spend few dollars in it, the challenge to find them and become more powerful than your enemies is pointless, it was like a race.

    Moreover and like RustyRust mentionned it, if the blueprints are managed with Steam, it means that we will have them no matter which server we are in, and the beginning part of the game is no longer existing…

    I love Rust, I loved the old Rust and I love the new one, even more I think, it is more pleasant and challenging ; but please, don’t destroy everything by setting up a pay to win thing.

  566.  
      RustyRust

    lumariousthelion Achti  This is exactly why I dislike the idea. I want to start over every new server I join. Its the most fun part – the beginning. being like “god I can’t wait until I get the metal building parts so I can make a better house that everyone else!” If I just start with all the blueprints…. its just about hitting rocks with a hatchet…. not as exciting. Also, once I have everything and just dominate, I feel like I’ve “won” and its time to start another server.

  567.  
      RustyRust

    Super against the steam trading card idea for blueprints. why? The most fun part of rust is the beginning when you don’t have anything – being a “noob” every time you join a new server or as I refer to it “start a new life in rust.” Having blueprints linked to your steam account makes them persistent through each “rust life”, meaning we lose that initial start up of having to “farm rad town” (yes I know no more rad town but you get the point) for blueprints. I really see it being a terrible idea to allow people to start off a new server at different levels – ie one guy can craft all blueprints and some other guy can craft zero; each with the same amount of play time on that server. It seems unbalanced and ruins the initial start up of rust! Same with the key’s/locks – its simply something we don’t need in rust! Keep It Simple Stupid – you made a great game (legacy) just stick to that and let people mod the servers to allow all this funky stuff like keys/locks, this weird blueprint idea, etc…. sounds simple to me! then, not now, literally everyone wins. Right now the losers are those who enjoyed the original gameplay or rust!

    My biggest concern recently is that your are ruining the amazing gameplay that you created with rust legacy! please don’t spoil the game!

    BTW I have NEVER traded a card with anyone. Its a system I don’t use and don’t care to use. thx!

  568.  
      Urme

    marcusravenheart Urme Let me just dont care what you say you Garry ass kisser wannabe. I have the money to spend cause i got lucky in this life and if this shit goes like this i will sue them just to make them problems and lose some money, maybe more, the law is a beautiful place were “paragraphs like the ones you just copy pasted” are twisted all the time. 
    So you see my little “Garry kiss ass  wannabe  ” with money an a good mind you can do anything so this Tom Cruise will have fun.

  569.  
      TyfE

    edmundos99 No, it’s not a contradiction, as facepunch aren’t the ones selling blueprints, it’s other players. I think the scenario they want is that say you have a blueprint duplicate, then you can sell it to a random player on the marketplace and buy one you need off a random player. Or maybe you need one steam trading card to make a badge, then you can sell a blueprint to get it!
    Overall it is a fairly tough thing to balance, as one end of the spectrum people are making big money from rare blueprints cus they have a large worth, or the other end every blueprint is so commonplace that it costs literally nothing so people just buy them all instead of working for them.
    This isn’t the best but it still doesn’t make it an in-app purchase. After all, steam cash is something you can get from selling stuff just given to you from games and that you can get more of by spending real money to get, so the steam money is actually kind of like in-game currency, as it has no monetary value as of itself. I mean you can’t withdraw money from your steam wallet and use it in other places.

  570.  
      RoySigmund

    As someone who bought this game for 3 friends so that they would play and recommend to others, your blue print idea is fucking stupid. Rust was an awesome game that no matter what server you were on you started from 0, and your skill at farming and/or raiding effected how you grew in the game. I don’t want to have some noob bitch with money having an advantage over me just because he wants to spend more money in a game buying blueprints. Even if the blueprints you can trade or buy have no strength value in pvp. You should want and HAVE to farm for. Everyone knows the best games out there are the ones that you have to actually farm for or be good at to gain an advantage. All these cash shop like games (even cosmetic only shops) ruin games in their longevity. Sorry garry im drunk but PLEASE don’t buy into the steam economy or cash shops, if you make a good game that requires time to be spent in game to aquire things, you will be fine because people like me will buy for friends. I spent 100$ on alpha game and I expect you to make the right decisions for gamers, not your personal gain. I’d even pay a subscribtion for rust

  571.  
      lumariousthelion

    Achti Yes, but doesn’t that also mean you can do the same thing? Your progress
    would now follow you server to sever! So you would create your starting advantage through the hard work you put into the game. Anyone can bring their blueprints to another server! You are not really at a disadvantage, no more than when playing a shooter with other high-level players. 
     That’s how I see it.

  572.  
      TyfE

    Reading these comments just reiterates my hatred of the the human race. It also made me more and more stupid as I read…
    People saying it’s like WarZ all over again, or saying they aren’t going to follow or play the game any more, or are just downright insulting Garry, need to smarten their dumb-fuck asses up. The whole blueprint marketplace idea is not final! And if you read the comments properly Garry even commented himself asking for proper feedback and if people would prefer no steam inventory. And as first and foremost he wants to make a good game, and secondly have a studio with a good rep, he will no doubt do what the fans want.
    I personally think that at the end of the day the cost for blueprints will be negligible (like probably around 15 pence or something for the more rare blueprints and 3 for the common ones like the steam trading cards), but if I was Garry and I really wanted to buckle in to a load of bitchy assholes who feel entitled, I would probably make them so they are tradeable through steam and that’s it, like a lot of the TF2 weapons are. Least that way there is no currency of any form involved, and it still has that human interaction that everyone wants, not just an anonymous transaction where you just press Buy.

  573.  
      lumariousthelion

    hmmmm…. As long as I can still get EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING without being REQUIRED to pay in anyway, I’m OK with this. Everything should be achievable without $$$. Because I already bought Rust! lol There should be NO exclusive content. IMO…

  574.  
      Louin

    if the rust devs want to get in the steam market they should  make purchasable skins for penises or something, blueprints have a HUGE a ffect on the gameplay

  575.  
      eddienugget112

    lol you guys bitch alot

  576.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    After thinking about it for a while it still isnt good…

  577.  
      Achti

    I have to say i dont like the blueprint as collecables idea. Because you cant start anew. in old rust, if you changed servers you had to start anew, and everybody had the same chances. with this, you get on a server, where there are people who can already build big weapons and armor from the start, and you start with nothing. thats bad game design. This will be a huge thing against new players.
    Please reconsider this idea.

  578.  
      FUZE

    Wow, I dont think I’ve ever seen so many people that are upset. The steam inventory system isnt made yet. Yea the idea doesnt sound too good but dont make any quick judgements. Try it first and see how it goes then criticize it. A question I have though is, will the blueprints be obtainable in the game still, but also purchasable and tradable for people who have the money? In my opinion though I do believe this should stay within the game. Just my thought, but first lets see how it goes. Sorry you have to deal with this Garry and everybody who has to read the rude comments. Hope everythings cool with unity and its nothing serious.

  579.  
      dedeignas

    I think this blueprint system is bad, but i think that it would be better if you buy items not with real money, but by some kind of rust money and you get that money for selling blueprints and shit. It would solve that pay to win problem if you wont be able to buy rust money for real money and it would be better becouse you dont need to spend real money for items. It is just my opinion, maybe this thing would ruin the game too i dont know, but the best thing would be legacy blueprint system maybe just a bit upgraded

  580.  
      stanjov

    I think it’s a very bad idea the blueprint trade system. It’s gonna ruin the game.

    For cosmetic obects it’s a great iudea thoug, combined with the user made items

  581.  
      BRUXXUS

    Torvaltz Agree as well.  Maybe house paint/building textures, furniture, clothes, but any item that gives someone a permanent advantage, forever, (on servers that support it), is shady.  I trust Garry and the team, though.  He’s said it over and over, if they implement something and it’s fucking horrible, they’ll change it.

  582.  
      igmartinez87

    Again bullshits like sounds? For real?? Please stop that, launch the baseline and then start to implements these bullshits which are not really important… we can’t wait to play the baseline!

  583.  
      Screamer89

    make free 2 play or fuck you garry your blueprint system

  584.  
      nflashy1

    fuck u garry with your fucking new blueprint system

  585.  
      BRUXXUS

    mbarnett25 I just started playing again for the first time in a few months and I completely forgot about the music in the legacy version.  It definitely added a mood and tension to the game, even with as simple as it was.

    Checked out the music you shared and I dig it!  Richard D James Selected Ambient Works Vol. 2 would fit well too!

  586.  

    What are you talking about? The game you ‘wasted’ money on is still there. You shouldn’t waste your time bitching so much.

  587.  
      VoidGaming

    Groovibaby Totally agreed.

  588.  
      Groovibaby

    yogi42 
    Now, I wonder if he even play his own game…

  589.  
      yogi42

    Groovibaby i fully agree whats the point in pvp and raiding if you already own the blueprints on all servers all the time

  590.  
      Groovibaby

    The interest of Rust was to start from the beginning when the server wype. Everyone starts without bluprint and the war began.
    But now what? You have a bluprint for all time, for every servers? It’ll be boring as ****
    Bluprints make the game go around, if there is no fight for bluprint, there is no game, no Rust.

  591.  
      marcusravenheart

    Urme Calm down Tom Cruise, no need to get your “lawyers” involved in this debate.  Also you really need to make up your mind man.  First you say you want it to be like legacy rust, then you come up with some weird percentage developed system that sounds like a pain in the ass.  Maybe instead of throwing around poorly developed threats of legal action you should push for things like “Items not being on the marketplace” or “Choosing to go to only servers that do not allow steam blueprints.”  Also I’ll just toss this one out there for you before you contact your legal team with all your “money and connections”  all games purchased on steam that carry the “Early Access Game” attachment are under a developers commons that pretty much makes it so no legal action can be taken unless they actually break a law. The most you could potentially do is push for a refund or reimbursement from steam that they are the sole decision maker of choosing to provide.  Also a commonly posted statement that is on the page prior to purchase that has been reviewed and accepted by every person who has purchased their software via the steam client was provided by the developer as a direct statement of what they have to offer. Their was no deceit or misguidance in the statement and it shows that the developer has done no wrong in your statements.

    Just to make sure you have seen it let me re-post it for your convenience and any legal team you wish to have review it.

    “We are in very early development. Some things work, some things don’t. We haven’t totally decided where the game is headed – so things will change. Things will change a lot. We might even make changes that you think are wrong. But we have a plan. It’s in our interest to make the game awesome – so please trust us.”

    By purchasing this title… you agreed to trust them. Remorse on such actions are not grounds for a lawsuit. You wouldn’t make it to the court let alone get a judge to force them to be extradited from their country to show up for your frivolous lawsuit.

    Also, trust me if this is the worst they do to make money on the title… we are blessed.  The game costs 20 bucks and shows more promise than most 60 dollar games I have bought in the last 2 years.  I do not see Rust beating me to death with a bunch of dlc packs, or season passes and thankfully no Rust 2 appears to be down the road that will be released 6 months from when they finish.  They rebuilt this game from scratch pretty much if they wanted to be “leeches” they would have made you pay for the new version or forced you to pay some fee to play legacy instead.  If the worst they do is make 2 cents off every 12 cents people openly trade with… that’s pretty kind of them.  I WANT Gary and his team to GET PAID…. because if they get paid… more awesome stuff gets made.

    If anything, we should push for items that can give a advantage in the game to be “trade only” or “non-marketable”.  Items that are vanity or overly common should be able to be sold or marketable.  Also for good measure, maybe a in-game blueprint that is server only can also be found more commonly … these blueprints are physical on the server and work well with servers that want to disable the steam blueprint feature.  In the end, no matter how it works…. exploits will happen.  Limiting or saying no to this function is foolish because there are people who will thoroughly enjoy it.  Thankfully though Face punch will be giving our server admins the tools they need to enforce the play style you all prefer… and if anything that’s a great resource for our server admins.  IF you don’t like the system, there will be server admins who agree and will provide you with a place for your patronage. Thus is same for others of the spectrum.

  592.  
      shaqiirl

    The way ill see it is: PPl who will be farming blueprints and wealthy ones buying them, the moment that happens i’m gone, if you would mention that earlier it would have safe me some money for other games. Next we will be buying premium weapons and gold ammo !!

  593.  
      edmundos99

    Erm, first he says, “The intention isn’t for us to sell blueprints to you” and talks about alarm bells ringing with the whole ‘in-app purchase’ scam then he says, “You sell it on the Steam Market for $0.03 – and you buy a coat blueprint.”
    Contradiction much?

    And fix the bloody servers, as well.

  594.  
      marcusravenheart

    grimmjow450 It also appears you will not be wasting any linking verbs on your comment either Tarzan.

  595.  
      KrisjanisGinters

    Kailucez are you dumb as shit. No one cares if they get the money the system is just shit its basically a pay to win you dumb fuck

  596.  
      readhere

    And you managed to break every server out there, too. Fix the fucking servers already.

  597.  
      lstraath

    Garry, i see you mention to give server owners to opt out from the market place blueprints, do not ever take that option out of the code because even in trading you see that the guy with the biggest bank account wins the game if you put assets there tat actually give you the benefits in game. Battlefield is a perfect example, very good game liked by many players. Now look at the reputation of Battlefield Hero’s and you get the point. Putting assets out of the game is bad because it causes ingame fraude and you can’t stop it because you as a programmer made the fraude legal.

  598.  
      mad3ngineer

    LPavel an easy solution? Don’t buy the stuff right off the bat. Perhaps garry will make it possible to select what blueprints are active, if you want to experience that feeling without trading off the blueprints.

  599.  
      LPavel

    I believe any type of market place or trading system will take away from what we all love about Rust. How can you have that scared feeling when you just start out, if you can just bring up marketplace and buy stuff right off the bat?

  600.  
      mad3ngineer

    For those of you who are raging about how garry is adding the steam inventory blueprints, you should READ THE FUCKING POST

    “We also appreciate that not every server wants people taking their ‘global’ blueprints with them so will make sure they can choose global/local inventories.”

    So, this means that you can join a server that functions just like the old version of rust, so there is no need to keep bitching.

  601.  
      TravMay1

    how about you shut the F*** up and let him try it stop trying to tell him what to do what happens if you end up liking it

  602.  
      grimmjow450

    Fu…k you Garry. New system blueprints suck. You destroy this RUST. You create total new game. This in no RUST. GJ i waste money.

  603.  
      funfight22

    I hate this new blueprint system.  No, its not out yet, but it sounds bad so it is.
    I hate spinach mom!  No I haven’t tried it, but it sounds terrible.

  604.  
      funfight22

    ofek4430 Why don’t you try to make make a game from scratch, let people play the barely working expermental version to be nice, and then read comments about how your game sucks because its not perfect yet.

  605.  
      funfight22

    loafalmighty learn2read As other people have said, facepunch doesn’t get any money.

  606.  
      funfight22

    scecjs Boxxed Most people refer subscription games as pay to play, games you buy as buy to play, and free games as free to play.

  607.  
      funfight22

    TheBestJohnEvar billballbilly I am pretty sure the only opinion he stated agreed with your point of view, as in servers without pay to win will be better.  You want the game to be not pay to win, he wants servers that are not pay to win, you both hate pay to win.

  608.  
      Urme

    Ok so they destroyed this game also. I swear to you, money destroys every game alive at this moment. Fuck you and your changes. Keep the game like rust was in legacy. Blueprints should be hard to get and IN THE FUCKING GAME. You find a blueprint and you try to make an item …the blueprint destroys itself in the process and now you can make 20% of that item……next you find another part of the blueprint for that item, you try to make the item and bam you can now do 40% of that item. 

    I swear i will sue them for promising something in the early access and delivering a money leeching game after that, and i have the money and connections to do it. even if i dont win i will ruin them with lost time and money they will need to spend on lawyers .

  609.  
      funfight22

    SirXeroX DWotSP45 Not that I don’t think people shouldn’t share their opinions, but you should probably find a different way.  You already bought the game, it doesn’t really matter if you play it anymore from a business standpoint.

  610.  
      funfight22

    bioclone_ax45  I am pretty sure DOTA does, and probably every other game similar to it, also counter strike GO.

  611.  
      mbarnett25

    Also I just read on Rustafied that you guys are adding music soon possibly.  Crossing my fingers that you have something by Atrium Carceri and the CryoChamber label going into the mix.  I don’t know anything about this kind of stuff but I would imagine that they could get you some fantastic material for a reasonable price.  And the kind of music they make (sorta-futuristic dark ambient) would go perfectly into the mix of this game.

  612.  
      mbarnett25

    The more I think about this the more torn I am on it.  What if there is a tier system?  Like you can only use the clothing
    global
     blueprints on a server?  I just don’t want to see people with a multitude of different grenades and guns… cause thats what they are going to buy.  They won’t be buying the cool outfit some guy made, they are all gonna buy the biggest best gun and grenades and the like.  I would buy all kinds of cool stuff… and I wouldn’t trade for it, but I like to play fair…many people don’t.  Also this is going to take a lot of the fun part out of having your own server, unless you guys can make this a more complicated system than it sounds, but it sounds like its in early stages so I can only speculate and give my opinions xD

  613.  
      Suddenlybears

    Im not one who normally post but i do hope we do not keep the trading card system since currently that just sounds like a sit around and wait for patterns to happen or buying it. I love to do rad runs in classic rust and i love stealing patterns from peoples houses and this removes that whole aspec of the game if u want to have something like this do it for skins of items so u can have a fancy items skin but not the full item.

  614.  
      CodyCartel1

    ofek4430 CodyCartel1 Yoshimtu1 I win mr. butthurt

  615.  
      mbarnett25

    To me its not about Facepunch ripping us off, or making money from it.  The problem is if I have $100 in steam I now am the coolest guy in Rust.  And that would be fine if I just looked cool.  But if I can get a decent base going and then have all the coolest guns, armor, medkits in the game immediately after I have established myself… that just sucks.  Its bad enough dealing with the veterans on a server as a server newb, (person who just joined the server and has nothing).  But now I have to deal with even the people that didn’t have to put in the time.  I dunno.  I hope you guys are right and this works.  But I’m scared.

  616.  
      Isaac1518

    FIX THE FUCKING SERVER RIGHT NOW PLEASE

  617.  
      MacaulayJamesWheeler

    First things first Um Servers bro Whats up with them lol been tryin to play all day and nothing

  618.  
      MikeEberhardt

    NoneOfIt inka1up drapeta im all for all the newbs making guns and then letting me take them when they still cant shoot for shit.

  619.  
      tonysaff

    he did not share an idea you fool, if you actually read the blog, he is waiting for it to be finished, which means its underway, which means the concept of the whole fucking game is useless, fuck rust and micro transactions, give me my money back..i never paid for a micro transaction game.

  620.  
      rahgots

    Here’s my idea for blueprints:

    -Blueprints obtainable in two ways:
       1.From random drops.
         2.From research.

    -Could craft research kit, then use it on item to learn how to craft that item OR use it on a resource to find a random blueprint relating to that resource (this way would have a chance to discover something) For example, if you use on metal fragments you have a chance to learn how to craft a metal knife.

    -Once you have a blueprint you use it to memorize it or give it to someone else.

    -Upon death there is a chance to drop a memorized blueprint at random, removing it from your memory.

    No need for this steam trading card thingy.

  621.  
      AndreTrenahi

    You guys need to fix the menus when we reduce the resolutions.. I got a slow PC so I play on 800×600 but I can’t play it at all because of the menu.. its too big for the screen.. :)

  622.  
      JamMyDodgeHole

    fjamesprice James Price from MDE? SHIEEEEET!

  623.  
      dalispower

    Windows are now jumpable? Well, shouldn’t there be added some sort of windowbars aswell? No one would build windows anymore.

    I’m not a fan of the new blueprint system, but as long as many good servers go for the local inventory i guess it’s fine

  624.  
      mogur00

    Leignheart agree 100% the consistent blueprint thing and being able to buy/sell them is a HORRIBLE idea. Although im sure there will be a big crowd of dickwads out there who love it. ie. teenagers taking some time off from COD

  625.  
      mogur00

    Mersh ofek4430 Kailucez no its more like
    1. run game
    2. play game a bit
    3. find an item called a blueprint
    4. think ‘hmm thats cool’
    5. sell blueprint if you want
    6. keep playing and scratch your balls if you have them (you may not)
    7. sell another one and then buy one yay for you
    8. shutup

  626.  
      fjamesprice

    There was apparently a dos attack on all servers.  My network has been up and down since.

  627.  
      Mersh

    ofek4430 Kailucez It’s more like 
    1. Random blueprint drop
    2. Sell it
    3. Buy one you desire

  628.  
      jonathanamartinez87

    Please fix the servers ASAP. Come on guys. Its Friday Night and no servers. Thats Bu…

  629.  
      insertmemehere6

    Suck my cock garry j newman you’ve fucked us all and you’ve fucked this game.

  630.  
      MacaulayJamesWheeler

    hey is any body else having trouble connecting to servers, mine just says connecting then instantly goes to dissconnect

  631.  
      ofek4430

    Leignheart They already ruined it, I played the legcy version for about 400 hours but couldnt stand the new version more than 5 hours, thats why
    1. The new buliding system is so terrible, I never find pressing your left mouse button for an hour fun (the forest did amazing job with the buliding sytem)
    2. The terrain is awful (doesnt matter what the seed is)
    3. It isnt fun anymore to farm, to kill animals, it just boring as hell
    4. Random terrain for rust is an horrible idea
    5. The new blueprint system is horriblle

  632.  
      ofek4430

    Kailucez People complained about warz being pay to play, but this was the same as the new blueprint system, you have 2 options
    1. Buy it.
    2. Earn it
    This is a survival game (or at least want to be one) whats the point of letting players buy blueprints, instead getting them thourgh survival?

  633.  
      ofek4430

    Boxxed They did it on WarZ as well, you can buy those items or buy them
    I bought a game, why do I need to pay more? same goes for all the bullshit dlc that aaa games have like camoes and map packs, if I bought a game and got only 1 4 of it, then sell it for 1 4 of the price – dont sell it for 60$

  634.  
      mattmanbranch

    Finally the axe won’t looks like frozen milk…

  635.  
      ofek4430

    CodyCartel1 ofek4430 Yoshimtu1 If you wouldnt want to waste your time commeting to me, you would not comment at all
    as I said before you know that I am right and have nothing to say, you just dont want to admit it

  636.  
      caldwellliam

    Most servers are down at the moment, I really wanted to play

  637.  
      rustomaniac

    Great progress!
    Yeah, the official servers are down, but patiently waiting. Thanks!

  638.  
      thelordsirnate

    AlexandreMotta wolfian They don’t get money from steam marketplace sales, only the player and valve get the money.

  639.  
      Kailucez

    Dumb nuts listen real close, the money you pay hoes to the player, the extra 2 cents or so goes to valve so they can further improve steam for a better gaming experience. So the game company is not taking your money, plus paying for blueprints is optional, you can still earn them so shut up about the “Face punch is ripping us off” and the ” It ruins the experience” it only ruins it if you let it too.

  640.  
      thelordsirnate

    Just saying…
         “We also appreciate that not every server wants people taking their ‘global’ blueprints with them so will make sure they can choose global/local inventories.”
    So if your worried about “play to win” with people buying blueprints then just go to a server that only takes local inventory.
    I like that I can accumulate blue prints across servers so even if I jump around mi not starting from scratch. However if I knew I was going to spend a lot of time playing on a single server I would just choose one that did local inventory. This change does almost nothing except open the playing field for casual players that like to play for short bursts and hop servers.
    So in conclusion calm down every one and just play local inventory servers if you don’t like the change.

  641.  
      CodyCartel1

    ofek4430 CodyCartel1 Yoshimtu1 Seems like i dont want to waste my time on a bunch of no good niggers, and I dont need to keep replying… I’ve already won.

    Bye

  642.  
      NoneOfIt

    Leignheart I’ll say that there probably won’t be C4 in the new build of the game. Most likely a heavier explosive that you have to carry over at slow walk speeds, but! I completely agree with you about this. It’s such a silly advantage to have, and persistent blueprint completely take the fun out of building up on a new server.

  643.  
      Leignheart

    drapeta Nobody wants to play fucking farmville, people want rust, where you work for what you get in the game and you do not simply “pay for blueprints”. Blueprints should be hard fucking earned from server to server. Nobody wants fucking farmville mechanics.

  644.  
      JesseRose

    There isn’t going to be any C4 in this game. So quit your whining.  As for the servers down 9pm EST on a friday night i took today off work to play rust. Find a fix please :)

  645.  
      Leignheart

    Do you know what problem I have with blueprints being bought, aside from the fact that part of the fun was finding blueprints on different servers, is this statement garry made.  “Even when you look at the most exploitative situation, a guy spending hundreds of dollars to buy all the blueprints”

    If that statement doesn’t trouble you, it should. Also I think it is bull crap that blueprints are persistent from server to server, no one, I repeat no one should be able to craft c4 after just starting a new server. This is how you ruin a game.

  646.  
      bioclone_ax45

    inka1up Aerimus Sir, you dont know what its cartoonist

    maibe you mean “arcade”.

  647.  
      LPGPictures

    Mac seems to be constantly disconnected when they try to join a server.

  648.  
      BryceVogel

    FIX THE SERVER ISSUE RIGHT MEOW!!!

  649.  
      NoneOfIt

    inka1up NoneOfIt drapeta If you were a high pop server, it would be difficult to get full kevlar, a BAR and the kits to research them(or finding BP) without getting killed by someone. With this system you can just pay(put money into steam) and bypass having to find any blueprint. This advantage isn’t a bad thing, it’s just taking a core part of the game, finding shit, and making it easier by using money. Instead of looking for guns and other things people are just going to spend more time farming resources to quickly craft weapons. Whereas in a freshly wiped server the first few people to get BARs were like celebrities, people would want to find them and research their gun or hunt them down, now people won’t give a damn because everyone will be able to craft it from the get go. I also hope they don’t implement global blueprints.

  650.  
      Vent Gorge

    RexaCard Perhaps you should actually pay attention to updates, dipshit.

  651.  
      Vent Gorge

    UnclaimedPants Mersh That was sarcasm you fucking retard.

  652.  
      bioclone_ax45

    inka1up please explain me this “You play for a few more hours, you get another trousers blueprint. You sell it on the Steam Market for $0.03 – and you also sell two hats you got from playing TF2 for $0.12. With the $0.15 you buy a coat blueprint.”

    2º- Steam cash, can be used to actualy buy games, buy it as gift so we all know later people can use this to sell that “gifts” to other players, we all know this and Steam knows this, so the possibilities that the stuff we will get will be unlimited (and also used to increase out steam wallet) are very very low.

    PD: dont replay telling about the TF2 system, that its a game by valve, owners of steam… there is no more games that give unlimited amount of items that can be sold for steam wallet money. (as I know)

  653.  
      inka1up

    NoneOfIt drapeta It takes like 2 hours to get a bolt action if your not autistic. Apart fromt hat it would probly even make it easier for shit players to get the high tier blue prints. I image that they would be able to find a bunch of shitty ones and trade them up for a high tier one. Or they could find a high tier organically. It just opens up more ways then mindlessly grinding for a good blue print

  654.  
      Darkreign

    drapeta Aerimus Yeah but if u put money in ur steam wallet u can use that money to buy trading cards etc. thats where the issue is

  655.  
      inka1up

    Aerimus Really the cartoonish game with zany buildings and clothes strives for realism?!?!?

  656.  
      drapeta

    Aerimus – Steam trading cards are not real money.  If you ever played Team fortress or games you get trading cards randomly.  You can ‘trade’ them for ‘money’ or other things  (it isn’t MONEY in the sense that you can spend it on anything out side of steam because you cannot actually ‘cash out’)

    I think the biggest problem is that no one has USED the trading/market system and so everyone is unfamiliar with it.

  657.  
      AlexandreMotta

    tarn1902 Sure. Cosmetic C4. LOL

  658.  
      Aerimus

    I thought Rust was supposed to strive for realism. There’s nothing realistic about a global marketplace to expedite in-game progression.

    I HATE that my first comment is this, but I am strongly against the real money marketplace for ANYTHING non-cosmetic.

  659.  
      NoneOfIt

    drapeta I know some people are unhappy because if this system is implemented, then players can (with money) gain an instant advantage over other players. The ability to craft high end weapons is not something that is attained easily.

  660.  
      drapeta

    Reread the ‘steam trading thing’

    Everyone is freaking out.  Take a deep breath, and reread what he wrote too.

    You won’t have to put ‘real’ money into the game to buy blueprints.  What is being suggested is like Farmville where you sell your crops for cash so that you can buy seeds to plant a different type of crop.  

    If you get trading cards and have ever sold them on the ‘market’ you will know that you get ‘steambux’ or whatever for selling trading cards.

    The point is he is using an existing system (the steam trading system) instead of having to program it himself so that we can have a player driven economy.

    Hope that helps explain things

  661.  
      tarn1902

    I don’t think they are talking about making blueprints for better armour or weapons. I’m pretty sure this is just for trading for different clothing with same attributes and cost in game.

  662.  
      ofek4430

    CodyCartel1 Yoshimtu1 Seems like you ran out of the bullshit you had in your mind

  663.  
      nwireman

    pachorradas Hallker I think you missed the part where it said, “We also appreciate that not every server wants people taking their ‘global’ blueprints with them so will make sure they can choose global/local inventories.”
    Meaning that if server owners don’t want it, they can simply set it so that no matter what you’ve bought, you can’t use those blueprints.

  664.  
      AaronCarnahan

    OrhanOziskender Still can’t connect…

  665.  
      inka1up

    If you dumb cunts would actually read for a a fucking second you would learn several things.

    1. They have related the ‘Trade-able Blue Prints” to trading cards to explain to simplify the trading concept with something you will be familiar with. Judging but the phrasing of the post they will in no way be timed and limited drops like cards. This means No you will not need to spend any money and no you will not have to trade as one person may have a blueprint that you were limited from like cards.

    2. Steam cash is not “Real Money” once its in steam its gone, and cannot be taken back to other purchase non-steam products. Therefore it is not real cash, steam wallet cash is about as real as Gems in “Clash of Clans” or ‘Farm Cash’ in “Farm Ville”.

    And how dare you cunts think you are so fucking entitled to everything. THE GAME IS $15! you have already bought and played hundreds of hours on it. The devs are probably the only devs to do “alpha and Beta right. I could list at least 20 other games that just real in the cash and abandon the game, maybe dont be an ungrateful greedy fucker and acknowledge they have lived up to their word and have even used hte money to not only finish the original game but develope one from the ground up with the cash.

    Crying when someone tries something new and interesting or innovative is just down right unproductive, who knows this could be something great that more games will implement in the future.

    *Side note as I was writing this like 2 or 3 more comments came up

     “http://www.livefyre.com/profile/66985937/4 minutes ago
    Horrible choice — make blueprints accessible in game!!!!!!

    They will be accessible in game with the additional option or purchase or sell them. Obviously they wouldn’t just fucking restrict half the game to people who arnt willing to pay, use your heads fuck me. I hope this system is implemented and all you dumbfucks dont play because I dont want people that retarded playing a game that I do.

  666.  
      alkezar

    Disappointment, horrible idea.
    Seriusly wtf this makes the game a mini pay to win , what if i dont want to spend money on this? Ill have to patiently gather all the bps while a guy that decides to spend 5 dollars on the market gathers it all in 2 minutes u are searching for easy benefit, not for a good game.

  667.  
      MrMonoPolygon

    bioclone_ax45 MrMonoPolygon

    ” We also appreciate that not every server wants people taking their ‘global’ blueprints with them so will make sure they can choose global/local inventories.”

  668.  
      MrMonoPolygon

    Read the Article… 

    ” We also appreciate that not every server wants people taking their ‘global’ blueprints with them so will make sure they can choose global/local inventories.”

  669.  
      robertbrownmo

    Horrible choice — make blueprints accessible in game!!!!!!

  670.  
      JustoFanelli

    1 Word, HORRIBLE worst change they could do, idk the could make that some wolves and bears drop blueprints like in the legacy and stuff, or maybe in airdrops, BUT THIS?  Garry, this is the worst choice you could take

  671.  
      MarcoDiaz1

    do i still die from 1 hit with rocks and axes ?? no fun sorry

  672.  
      bioclone_ax45

    MrMonoPolygon I cant deactivate skins on private matches on L4D2 or NS2, what makes you think hosts on Rust will be able to “just ignore” that?

  673.  
      bioclone_ax45

    I did expect much more from you garry.

    Where its the guy who made Gmod?

  674.  
      OrhanOziskender

    Guys when servers will open again?

  675.  
      bioclone_ax45

    CitizenVII  Technically, Steam get 0,01 € from every 0.03 € item sale, so anybody its making money.

  676.  

    dont bring real money into this, that just will kill the rust dream for me, make people have to trade items mutually ingame not one person trading blue prints for real life cash. please dont implement this system gary. also hackers can easily get blue prints and get rich off of selling them

  677.  
      CodyCartel1

    Yoshimtu1 CodyCartel1 You are all sooo butthurt, its funny.

    lol mad virgins

  678.  
      EdgarStrod

    A steam trading card system for blueprints? Are fucking retarded?
    This will ruin immersion and throw other great ideas about blueprints into the GARBAGE!
    Its the cheapest and stupidest idea i ever heared! I agree with user created content that you can trade around on steam but not core element of the game..

    Sincerely a fan!

  679.  
      m-p{3}

    SirXeroX m-p{3} NoneOfIt You don’t have to pay to win. Anyway, how can you win in Rust?

  680.  
      brandonhill0938

    Sorry garry long time fan of the game but i have to say steam trading blue prints is the worst idea ivr seen so far. If this happens i may not end up playing the actual release if this is the direction the game is going. Pay to win will always be for the loss and i think the majority of your player base will agree. Maybe consider tradable skins for armor/weapons/and maybe stickers/spray paint to tag things? Idk i realy would love to see this game go in the proper direction but i think this is a step in the wrong one.

  681.  
      SirXeroX

    m-p{3} NoneOfIt pay2win games sucks!

  682.  
      m-p{3}

    NoneOfIt Well, I disagree with you?

  683.  
      NoneOfIt

    If enough people state their opinion that purchasable blueprints is a bad idea, then hopefully they will take it out. In legacy the ability to craft a Bolt Action Rifle was nothing to scoff at. being able to do this from the moment you enter a server is one thing(Global Blueprints) but being able to not even have to find it? That’s a bit too much for me. Whether people believe the option to turn it off will occur on most servers is irrelevant, we are not sure what is going to happen. However, we know for sure that they want to implement purchasable blueprints. I hope they choose to not this. I also hope they choose not to go with global blueprints.

    Keep letting the great development team know what your opinion is, don’t be afraid to disagree with something. These guys have the good sense to listen to their fans.

  684.  
      SirXeroX

    DWotSP45 agree with you! i’m not going to play this if the game be pay2win i hate this

  685.  
      UltimaGlow

    scecjs UltimaGlow TheBestJohnEvar Shifter276 Concord95 yeah, i would like that the blueprint idea is taken out, but i keep my hopes up for being taken out coz its still in alpha, and the new possibilities are:

    -Once the bugs are fixed and it is balanced the raiding system will be better with you being able to wreck a noob house, but being unable to take down a mid-pro level base, it still needs a LOT of ballancing but it can still be done

  686.  
      Yoshimtu1

    CodyCartel1 Really? “Go make your own” So what if you share your opinion on ANYTHING you don’t like, that means you must be able to do better? You’re a guzzling retard.

  687.  
      Mersh

    I see your point and all I have to say is that rust was originally a gamble. It was a completely new take on the whole survival style of game that came to be because of it’s risks.
    I’d rather see new ideas and concepts over the same shit. Kudos to Garry for trying something different even after his great success. If it doesn’t work, it will be rejected and something new will be replaced.
    So we should all stop having fucking aneurisms over this game

  688.  
      bioclone_ax45

    WTF did you do with that idea about “trading cards”? the idea inst so so bad but reading this “You play for a few more hours, you get another trousers blueprint. You sell it on the Steam Market for $0.03 – and you also sell two hats you got from playing TF2 for $0.12. With the $0.15 you buy a coat blueprint”… Its that the prices you arethinking about? that I must get another way to get some cash to be able to craft any new stuff?

    GOD DAMMED, re-think all the idea.

    If we are speaking about items, non tradeable by cash (just tradeable, 1 by 1) and that you will get every so often some (without limits) we can do something with the idea, if not hell im going to set all the place in fire.

  689.  
      MrMonoPolygon

    Kids Calm down, many servers that don’t support the Steam Item Idea will disable it anyway. Read all of the information before posting next time.

  690.  
      DWotSP45

    I will not be playing experimental if the Pay to win blueprints are in the game. Fuck this.

  691.  
      Psycic101

    I really don’t like the idea of having to purchase blueprints with real money. It feels like it’s buying into the DLC concept of: “Buy our game but fuck it, give us more money and we’ll give you a pair of fluffy socks and a dubstep-gun as a consolation prize”

  692.  
      benmacai

    Big fan of rust and how this game is being developed in front of our eyes. Pay to win is wrong. Don’t subject us to this travesty. Skins would be fine. Blueprints, if you want the option of server independent BPs then build the apparatus to support that.

  693.  
      Zingo

    Garry Newman We dont want to be able to buy/sell or trade anything game related on steam. Keep it like it was in legacy.

  694.  
      franksitese

    No update today?

  695.  
      benmacai

    Chembear exactly, they should focus on that instead of trading system… just look at what real money auction house did to D3

  696.  
      benmacai

    Torvaltz 100% agree

  697.  
      scecjs

    Mersh Because the game has built up massive fan support based on its previous build.  Nearly 2 million copes sold, over $30 million in sales, 64k Steam reviews with a very positive rating.  Adding in something as polarizing as pay-to-win features, weapons/armor sold rather than cosmetic items, is going to piss a lot of those nearly 2 million people off.

  698.  
      Zingo

    Garry Newman Just keep it as it was in legacy, it worked great.

  699.  
      GrepaShange

    Random recipes is need in Rust.

  700.  
      Mersh

    PLEASE GARRY FIX IT MY EYES ARE FALLING OUT OF MY GOD DAMN HEAD

  701.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    AlexandreMotta TheBestJohnEvar MrStalk3r We will see. I was a fan of Garry for so long. I have still a litle bit of hope

  702.  
      Mersh

    HOW DARE YOU TRY SOMETHING NEW IN AN EARLY ACCESS VERSION OF YOUR GAME. YOU’RE FUCKING RUINING LIVES GARRY

  703.  
      AlexandreMotta

    TheBestJohnEvar AlexandreMotta MrStalk3r I hope so. But he knew he was going to get a huge backlash and decided to do it anyway. It’s about the money, and IMO the decision has been made.

  704.  
      Torvaltz

    Rust dev team, I understand how much fun the Steam Community Market is. I love is, and have made 60 dollars just selling in game things. 

    But if you’re going to add a market, it should be things that dont affect gameplay, like skins for CSGO or hats for TF2.

    Maybe you should make the market sell things like cool hair styles or something. But please not anything that tampers with gameplay.

  705.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    AlexandreMotta TheBestJohnEvar MrStalk3r MAYBE Garry will see what he did

  706.  
      AlexandreMotta

    TheBestJohnEvar MrStalk3r RIP Rust :(

  707.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    MrStalk3r Yes so sad :'(

  708.  
      MrStalk3r

    Why garrry why ?? 
    Rust was really nice. The most player ( 9/10) want content like legacy. NOT THIS SHIT °
    worst Dev-Block since rust began. :(
    Really bad News. 
    Rust go in the wrong way…

  709.  
      Chembear

    I just think it kind of defeats the point in scavenging and grinding for the blueprints if you can just spend like $1 and have them all. if they are that cheap everyone will buy them. You need to make blueprints difficult to obtain like in legacy. Remember the feeling when you loot a rad bear and you see the blue colour of a research kit or a rifle blueprint? that’s the feeling i still want to have from the new version of rust.

  710.  
      MikeMiller7

    Rust is so good that ive been ruined from playing other survival games.

  711.  
      KokayneDawkins

    KyleLaurensDavis RexaCard Yes, that would be perfect!

  712.  
      pyrasonis2112

    You should so make it like New vagas system where you have certain damaged parts that you can use a needle or pack on!

  713.  
      Boxxed

    scecjs Boxxed You were right and wrong, as well I. I did read that wrong, but as did you. 

    In Legacy you got to learn a blueprint and you had it forever. In Experimental it’s different. The blue print stays in your “steam” inventory. This is apparent when they say if you get two you could sell one. One for you and one to sell. The other part was where he was talking about crafting his friend a shirt. He kept dying and losing the shirt.  
    Direct quote from up above 
    “Your friend starts playing, you craft him a shirt. He dies. He asks you for another shirt. You decide that you don’t want to keep doing this.. so you start a steam trade and give him the shirt blueprint.”

    And back up to the point of spending real money is another direct quote:
    “You play for a few more hours, you get another trousers blueprint. You sell it on the Steam Market for $0.03 – and you also sell two hats you got from playing TF2 for $0.12. With the $0.15 you buy a coat blueprint.”

    None of that was real money in my opinion. I don’t even think you could add them to a debit card and turn it into real money. Can you? I don’t know for sure. 

    Lastly in response to to the Pay to Win/ pay to play. I’m an old school gamer, I remember when a game came out, you spent money, and that was the end of the deal. It was called a game and that was it. I understand Free to play as well since well you spent no money and you got the full package. I also just know of Pay to play like an mmo where a reoccurring payment was due every month in order to have access of the game. As for Pay to Win.. shit I’ve never had to buy an item in any game of my life to “win”.
    So I will apologize to that, as well to Alexandre. Though that comment wasn’t directed at him, it was directed at an entire community shit talking a developer because they hear $$ and and all of a sudden Garry is fuckin Hitler.

  714.  
      NickCole1

    Everyone needs to calm down…… these guys have delivered a great game so far. There have been moments in this game that have been life changing. If your like me and you don’t like the idea relax, try to control the urge to write profanity, and post your complaint thoughtfully. Its an alpha things will change. If you have been here as long as I have, and you have a smile on your face every Friday in anticipation for the next post; then you know as well as I do its way to early to jump to conclusions. I agree that the market system would be devastating to both immersion and the wonderful rush of finding that blue print for that weapon you have been trying to find. However most rust players know, once you became established on a server and you had the big house and all the perks that came with it, you also had a crate with about 30 shot gun BP in the corner that you know you were never going to use. So perhaps this market system will bring meaning to those blue prints. Just as well gray is also correct in saying, “a guy spending hundreds of dollars to buy all the blueprints.. he’s
    still got to go in the game and get the resources to be able to craft
    the items. And even then you could kill him with a rock and take all the
    stuff he’s made.” that right there is a staple of rust. With that in mind I am not 100% opposed to the system. However I do feel there needs to be some sort of limiting compromise to this system. When looking back at the blog I see he only mentioned things that seem aesthetic i.e. “clothing.” Which I consider a fine compromise, you can trade skins and aesthetic clothing but not tactical and lethal tools like guns and of course C4. This way we find use for those 30 leather shirt BP crates in the corner and if you like your shirt to be blue….. hell just spend the $0.03. I had 100% faith in the rust team the moment I started and I have 100% faith in the Rust team now. :)

  715.  
      AlexandreMotta

    wolfian The thing is: what reason the devs have besides wanting more money to implement this feature? It adds nothing to Rust. It doesn’t fit well in a survival game, specially Rust.
    So the only reason is money.

  716.  
      LazyCircles

    rustergroovie Nice one mate! I’m with you :D

  717.  
      KyleLaurensDavis

    This is true.

  718.  
      rustergroovie

    All this jarring backlash just means people are really passionate about the game.

    To Garry and the devs…this childish shit below, you’ve all seen before. You and your teams ideas are bigger than the scope of their imagination. It’s YOUR innovation that gave all these hateful fucks hundreds of hours in a game they are too stupid to be grateful for. The real players are here with you, buds. Make the game YOU want. History will thank you for not listening to the collective asspiss in these comments.

  719.  
      KokayneDawkins

    KyleLaurensDavis KokayneDawkins Ofcourse, but people should give constructive feedback instead of wishing cancer upon Garry…

  720.  
      ThePigFriend

    hey. the pig I got for christmas is not working, I think its broken. pls help, share and subscribe. Ps: the pig is making wierd noices when I poke it.

  721.  
      KyleLaurensDavis

    KokayneDawkins This is true, but it is also true that to promote changes one views as beneficial you have to speak up about the presumed issues.

  722.  
      wolfian

    I bought Rust last year, loved the concept, and have been excitedly following the development every Friday since you began these posts.  This blueprint idea marks the first time I’ve been really scared for the direction this game is taking.  I do not want pay-to-win at any level of any game I play, but *especially* not in a survival game.  I still have faith in you, and I believe you just want this game to be the best it can be, but giving people the option to break the survival immersion and be handed blueprints from on high is not the way to go.

    P.S. To the very few, but tenacious, people who are saying this is not a pay-to-win scenario, please allow me to explain.  

    First, pay-to-win is not the same thing as pay-to-play.  Pay-to-win means simply that any player has the OPTION to spend extra money to get an in-game advantage over players who opt not to spend extra money.

    Second, let’s consider two scenarios.
    1)  Player A has found Blueprint X.  Player A would rather have real money than have Blueprint X, so A puts X on the market.  Player B may now spend real money to obtain Blueprint X.  This is the definition of pay-to-win, regardless of who Players A and B are, what Blueprint X is, or how much it was listed for.
    2)  There does not exist any player who has any blueprint that they want to sell, and as such there are no blueprints on the steam market.  There is no pay-to-win, but everyone wonders why the developers spent so much time developing this trading system that no one uses.
    3)  Those were the only two possible scenarios.

  723.  
      KyleLaurensDavis

    RexaCard I think there should be a way to like, when you have a lock that has not yet had a key added to it you could use an existing key and bind the lock to that key rather than creating a new one (or create a new one if you want two)  
    This would allow for a vast reduction in the number of keys but still leave the possibility of unique keys per door.

  724.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    billballbilly Of course your oppinion is the only good one and you know how everything is going to happen…
    Good billbalbilly you are so stupid 
    Again

  725.  
      KokayneDawkins

    Concord95 I think Garry is a human being and makes mistakes like everyone else. As you obviously see he’s not some game design god born on top of the Himalayas. You give feedback. He reads it. He takes the feedback. He fixes it. Stop being a little bitch.

  726.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    billballbilly Of course your oppinion is the only good one and you know how everything is going to happen…
    Good billbalbilly you are so stupid

  727.  
      KyleLaurensDavis

    I am not a fan of a meta-trade market in a survival game, but at least it with be a server side option.  It will be interesting to see how the balancing for rarity factors for the steam trade system though and how much a hindrance that becomes for servers without it.

  728.  
      billballbilly

    TheBestJohnEvar There’s absolutely nothing to discuss besides the fact that if you don’t understand what I’m saying, or think I am wrong, you must be retarded. No offense meant here, it’s just the truth.

  729.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    billballbilly I am not going to hinder you. I was going to try to discuss with you normally, but some people are just to stupid to do that…

  730.  
      billballbilly

    AlexandreMotta Sorry, but no he didn’t. I read his entire comment. How hard is it to understand that there is an option for server owners to allow buying Blueprints in the inventory or not? Pretty simple to me. The servers will local and NOT global inventories will be far superior to the rest of them, and all the kids that want to spend real life money on Blueprints can go to the global servers for that type of play. I really don’t see how you could argue against that. Anyways I think 5 minutes on this site is enough for today, really questioning reality now when people fail to understand a very simple thing, such as this.

  731.  
      KokayneDawkins

    Concord95 KokayneDawkins That fact that you wish that upon a human being reflects well upon your mental health.

  732.  
      ofek4430

    CodyCartel1 ofek4430
    I hate those people that say “It is early acces” the word early acces means its in early development, it doesnt mean the game need to be bad, or buggy (I could stand bugs), but things such as buliding system and the awful terrain wont be changed.
    1. I am not talking about terrain textures, trees, rocks or anything like that, I am talking about the terrain itself, the mountains and all that kind of shit just doesnt make any sense.
    2. The buliding system, wont be changed as well (ofc they will improve it) because its based on improving things by clicking the left mouse button which is so fucking dumb, and boring as hell.
    3. I can make a a game, I am devloping in unity for 2 years, so pls stop with your bullshit

  733.  
      Concord95

    KokayneDawkins you stupid dick, I hope that you will die from brain cancer, it will kill the role system, but you’re too stupid to understand it.

  734.  
      RexaCard

    Is there any chance of making the the whole carrying around a key for each door thing into you can say craft a key chain or something like that, I like to make many doors but then I have all these keys

    P.S. I don’t really mind the blueprint thing, I kinda like it.

  735.  
      Boxxed

    You’re just being petty bro. Pay to play means you have to continuously pay money to play the game. I.E. an MMO with a monthly fee or a micro transaction game where you must pay X amount of money to not wait 15 hours to do something. This game was never said to be a Free game, you buy it once and that’s it. What people aren’t understanding here is you don’t have to pay anything at all. This creates its own economy. You can obtain every item in this game without spending a penny of your own hard earned cash. Yes, someone out there has to start it and drop a few dollars (Dollars, like one or two. Everything should be under 15 cents, though rarity will obvious change price. C4 would be something obnoxious like 3 dollars in comparison, but that’s about it. That alone will ween out the numbers of who has them. Plus if some ass buys the entire market then only one dude in all of Rust existence has them all. Meaning every server will be void of them besides one. That’s about a 1 in 10,000 chance you’ll come across that guy on any server. Sounds much better now, eh?), but once that first initial bust of money is out there then the economy starts. Now someone can buy two blueprints from someone with the money they made selling 3 of their own. None of which they had to even enter their debit card to obtain.

  736.  
      KokayneDawkins

    Motherfuckers complaining before the game is even finished. Things are subject to change, and no decisions are final.

  737.  
      loafalmighty

    billballbilly Cobzy yeah dude everyone will want to use their “new blueprint”. Even you. This is how you ruin a game with greed.

  738.  
      billballbilly

    TheBestJohnEvar People like you really make me wonder why I don’t kill myself already.

  739.  
      AlexandreMotta

    billballbilly Cobzy Actually, he gave a very reasonable argument as to why giving the option to turn it off won’t prevent a general problem. It looks like you are stupid or didn’t read his comment.
    Anyway, we all know how that goes. “Hardcore” mode servers are always empty, unstable, unreliable. They suffer from balance issues. They attract mostly experienced, PvP-oriented players. So they totally change the experience of the game. There should be no pay to win.

  740.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    Cobzy  It broke my heart too :(
    billballbilly Dont be so sure on that.

  741.  
      billballbilly

    ITT: A bunch of fucking retards.

  742.  
      Codelite

    Player-driven economy, i’ll feel like a boss . cheers garry !! thank you ahaha

  743.  
      billballbilly

    TheBestJohnEvar KokayneDawkins nope, Kokayne knows what’s up.

  744.  
      scecjs

    Boxxed You may want to brush up on your reading comprehension before you call people out for their reading ability.  According to the post, you don’t drop blueprints upon death, just the gear you are carrying and what you’ve made from those blueprints.  With this system, once you “learn” a blueprint, you always know it on servers that allow global.
    Second, this is pay to play because the game cost $20.  That is the very definition of pay to play.  I think the phrase you are looking for is pay to win, which this is an example of.  Pay to win refers to when spending money gives you an advantage in a multiplyer game over people that haven’t spent money on extras.  If two people boot up the game for the first time and one bought a bolt action blueprint then he clearly has a distinct advantage over the other player who didn’t spend money on it.

  745.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    KokayneDawkins Shut up

  746.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    Chembear I dont worry about the key sytem or the upgrade sytem. They will work it out. 
    However it definetly agree with you on the blueprint system. Like you said the sytem of Legacy was good, but maybe could be even more improved, but I dont think that the marketplaye is the way to go

  747.  
      billballbilly

    Cobzy Sorry, but are you stupid, or did you just not read the entire thing? there will be an option to turn this off by the server owner, I guaranfuckingtee most “good” servers will have this disabled. Not everyone is a little kid wanting to obtain everything in the game instantly with real life money, many of us, like you, want to play a balanced game.

  748.  
      KokayneDawkins

    You chodes in the comments crying because of the blueprints can go wank a dead beat pig with your cum filled teenage hands.

  749.  
      loafalmighty

    Cobzy :(

  750.  
      Cobzy

    I look forward to the dev blog every week, but this one broke my Newman heart. I am dedicated to this game and enjoy playing it despite the bugs.
    I cannot support this idea for blueprints though. The player finding prints will be behind the ones that buy them. The resources needed can be gathered by friends all day while you sit and craft 30 shotguns. The solo gun crafter can trade for the resources. The global/local setting will become moot after awhile too. Once people have global prints then they will want to play global print servers, not local. The official servers don’t have options so does that default to global setting? Local prints will become like hardcore mode on Diablo, with no one wanting to play.
    Don’t do this please!!!!

  751.  
      AlexandreMotta

    Boxxed It’s already pay to play since it’s not free to play. Anyway, that is the premise of every single free to lose pay to win game out there. “Oh, you can get everything. But if you don’t want to grind, you can pay to have x, y, x”.

  752.  
      insertmemehere6

    m-p{3} Scellow They ARE selling them you stupid fucking moron. They can be SOLD on the marketplace and guess who gets a large cut of it? Fucking idiot.

  753.  
      insertmemehere6

    Hey Garry, fuck you.

  754.  
      Boxxed

    How is this pay to play? You can attain blueprints FOR FREE in the game and then sell them for about 2-5 cents on the steam workshop. It’s like trading cards for steam, you get them for free and then you sell them for pennies. No one said you have to buy blue prints, though you have the option if you want to speed things up. You can, like the said, buy all of one and monopolize them, but if you die you lose them. Should you want to avoid that servers can set up a local or global server inventory. Read the fine print you ignorant fucks.

  755.  
      AlexandreMotta

    Louin The whole post is a joke. Full of half-ass excuses.

  756.  
      Chembear

    I really don’t like this Blueprint idea, I know this comes out as bitching about it before it’s even been tried or tested but i just don’t think it fits with the Rust aesthetic. When i first played Rust Legacy it was such a grind for survival,  it was hard to even set up a basic wooden house without being killed part way through. And then the chances of not being robbed after one night of not playing were incredibly rare. BUT then. That feeling, when you find the blueprints for metal walls and doors was amazing. you are then suddenly able to protect yourself from a much larger range of people (except hackers which really ruined Rust legacy.) There are elements of the new Rust that i feel have already detracted from this sense of impossible survival yet i’m willing to wait and watch and see if these get ironed out. My first issue is the building system. You can now build a structure with level 6 walls in approximately 15 – 20 minutes. This definitely needs ironing out. it took me about 20+ hours to harvest the resources and find an ideal location for a base that lasted more than 1 day in rust legacy, and that, was fun. really fun. I think this new building system will be fine as long as you need to acquire a blueprint for the next level of wall etc. Also 10 metal to upgrade from 4 -5 or 5 -6. should be more like 500 i reckon, make people really WORK for that sense of safety.

    The lock system is another factor that has drastically changed rust and also definitely needs some work. If they stay true to their devblog ideas and include different forms of lock that you can install then this would be ideal. perhaps the highest tech lock is like a fingerprint scanner so yo don’t require a key but no one else can get in. i think this would be a good direction to take the lock system, allowing players different forms and tech level of locks that allow different people with different needs alternate possibilities. Perhaps code based and password doors would work better for groups while a fingerprint scanner lock would work better for a lone wolf. This key system would be maybe like a punishment for not having upgraded your lock system as their are many survival risks with carrying a key out with you when you go to harvest resources.

    All of these things in mind, even though they may not be initially where i would have liked rust to go,i am willing to see what happens with these ideas as i believe in this game and the developers and i think that they will be ironed out over time. I think as long as they don’t rush development and keep to everything they’ve said they had planned in their devblogs and keep listening to the players. THIS game will be one of the best of it’s kind.

    The only exception i have to waiting and seeing what happens, is this blueprint system. As i said before, i really don’t think it fits the aesthetic of the game. The blueprints need to be physical items in the game so that they can be stolen, traded with strangers and exchanged for in game items with real players. When you break into someones house and they have a shotgun and you kill them. 1. you get the shotgun and 2. maybe if they found two shotgun blueprints and only used one you get to learn how to make them for yourselves. There will definitely be some kind of exploitation of the trading of blueprints if they are tradable via steam. To be honest i think it’s a really bad way of dealing with the system. Legacy had it just right with the blueprints you find and the research kits to learn how to craft items in your possession. this combined with being able to find new items in airdrops or in crates in irradiated landmarks made for an excellent system.

    I’d like to see maybe some interesting twists on the legacy blueprint and research kit system but i just think this really isn’t the answer. Keep it in game, it makes for more immersive gameplay than steam trading. IF it ain’t broke. DON’T fix it.

    Rant Over.

  757.  
      d6vil

    Blueprint idea could turn out nicely, depending on rarity of items.. I’m assuming after ~25-30 hrs gameplay you can acquire most BPs, so you wont need to buy them really. The selling / purchasing system will allow new characters to pay to get up to that level without the grind, but that will only be an advantage for so long. I see this as a roadway to being able to play a game with more emphasis on the interaction with other people, PvP, and building communities and bigger groups. Since everyone can eventually have everything, once you get there its just a game of resources rather than blueprint farming (like farming rad wolves / bears for hours everytime you join a new server in legacy). He said explicitly he wants it to be more like trading cards, not paying for them. The market system will allow transfer between players who don’t know each other, which could prove helpful.. I say give it some time and don’t jump on the hate bandwagon just yet… micro transactions suck, he acknowledges that and he probably knew flak was coming for this post… Lets see how they work it out, and if it stills sucks then I’ll join the bandwagon too.

  758.  
      _MrGoodKill_

    Nooooooo. What the hell with the blueprints? Please don’t do that! 
    I like the fact that in Rust everybody is equal. That’s like the most important thing about Rust. No matter what, you spawn naked with a rock. It’s the essence of Rust :/. Plus you can do whatever you want you know people will find a way to exploit this thing. Just don’t. I even breaks the immersion. It’s something totally outside the game. I don’t have words right now but i’m strongly against this idea. Please think a little more about it before implementing it ingame?

    Also: ok you’ll have your share in every transaction and you will make money from it but you’ll ruin the game in the mean time! It’s probably not the best way to make you understand we don’t want it but I have to say it.

    On a completely different topic, performance is getting terrible. I have a decent computer and i can not have a stable 30fps with fastest preset and everything to the lowest besides drawing distance. (i actually gain like 10fps from fantastic to fastest) Please try to keep an eye on this?
    Ok thanks for the good work as always but no bp in steam inventory. Any other solution would be better truly. I don’t play tf2, I don’t have no hats I can sell. Those bp should be an ingame thing.

  759.  
      AlexandreMotta

    ThatsKawaii This is starting to look more and more like WarZ:
    1. Promise what everyone wants
    2. Give people a fun game, a promising experience for a short period of time
    3. Introduce pay to win, ban/lock all criticism and try to earn as much money as you can before the game dies

  760.  
      Louin

    “It’s important to us that there’s no losers in this situation”.

    im sorry but the obvious losers in this situaiton are the guys who DONT buy blueprints.

  761.  
      loafalmighty

    how rust loses the majority of its player base right here

  762.  
      dirkyj

    Way to fuck up the game asshole – I’m done!

  763.  
      andrew1993201212

    fuck u asshole

  764.  
      DamienCorruptMindTigner

    And over night experimental is broken for me. Wasnt to cool to step out of my house and drown losing everything.

  765.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    ThatsKawaii Really? The first thread is one complaining about the blueprints and it isnt deleted

  766.  
      joecavallo

    Scruzo Aaron13ps Yeah but he can have all money of this world if he is lousy player and you kill him with 2 shots from your pistol.

  767.  
      r3dr00zt3r

    I’ve followed this dev blog since near beginning and I’m stopping at the lines of “Blueprints will be stored in your Steam Inventory. You will be able to trade them.”. I’m not interested anymore. I will not support pay to win games under any circumstances. Garry can make his sarcastic, condescending remarks all he wants in his next dev post, I do not care anymore.

    I will continue following Rust if I hear that they decide to scrap this idea.

  768.  
      Louin

    the devs should understand that unlike hats in TF2 and skins in cs:go blueprints have a massive affect on the gameplay as proven in legacy. the competetion between players in rust is one of the most important aspects of the game, and blueprints would just ruin the sense of accomplishment when defeating a rival.

    10/10 would go back to legacy if it happens.

  769.  
      loafalmighty

    learn2read Then just leave it at local. Adding Global does nothing but pad the Facepunch pocketbook. This does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but fuck over a percentage of players who wont invest lots of time or money into the game. There is no reason to do this when they already made a fucking fortune on us. Greed, plain and simple. All this is.

  770.  
      ThatsKawaii

    Facepunch forums already deleting threads complaining about this, way to go mods who wants free speech anyway

  771.  
      bogel

    major_grubert are you not entertained?

  772.  
      learn2read

    AlexandreMotta You did read the part that said servers have the option to allow global inventory or local inventory right?Local being find it on the server, global being once you get it you have it forever on any server allowing global.

  773.  
      learn2read

    Scellow You did read the part that said servers have the option to allow global inventory or local inventory right?Local being find it on the server, global being once you get it you have it forever on any server allowing global.

  774.  
      CodyCartel1

    ofek4430 CodyCartel1 Do you not realize that this is an EARLY ACCESS game? moron.
    If you dont like where the game is going, make your own.

    OHH YOU CANT.
    leave

  775.  
      learn2read

    ThatsKawaii You did read the part that said servers have the option to allow global inventory or local inventory right?Local being find it on the server, global being once you get it you have it forever on any server allowing global.

  776.  
      learn2read

    loafalmighty You did read the part that said servers have the option to allow global inventory or local inventory right?
    Local being find it on the server, global being once you get it you have it forever on any server allowing global.

  777.  
      VRymba

    Garry Newman Yes. Old system was much better. Think about this way. Trading on steam is a separate thing from the game. It ruins the game. One guy has money so he will buy them as fast as possible.  Others can’t. And it doesn’t matter if a guy is just started the game and doesn’t know shit about it. Maybe putting exp would be a better idea.  E. g. the more guns u craft the better ones u can or something.

  778.  
      major_grubert

    Here’s a blueprint for you, Garry.

  779.  
      RicardoFF

    Concord95 Very disappointing…

  780.  
      loafalmighty

    Look I have been supportive for almost a full year now, I have reported like 20 bugs personally. I go out of my way to help in the development of this game where I can. This blueprint steam inventory system is the final straw for me. 1200 Rust hours as of now, I have given this game as a gift to like 10 people, but I wont play a second of the game where it becomes any shade of pay to win.

    You keep making decisions that make you have to say things like “Its not as bad as it sounds” and “After you are done being angry you will see how good it really is”. Please listen to the people who made you rich, we enjoy your game. Please don’t ruin it out of greed…

  781.  
      ofek4430

    CodyCartel1 We heard that from every early acces game, I played the legcy rust for 420 hours, I tried to play the new version, but its just so boring and awful, those the reasons why.
    1. The legcy version of rust it was fun to farm resources, kill animals and all that sort of bullshit, in the new version it isnt fun at all.
    2. The terrain is awful, just look at it

  782.  
      ThatsKawaii

    Blueprint idea seems alright until you realize people can simply buy blueprints for c4. Yeah they have to gather the ingredients, but the blueprints for late game items are extremely rare and from airdrops making it even chance for anyone to grab them

    Thanks to the purchasing blueprints now it’s only the people willing to spend money who get c4 and everyone else who already paid 20 dollars for the game get nothing

  783.  
      Concord95

    CodyCartel1 Because this innovation will kill all the fucking role system.

  784.  
      pachorradas

    m-p{3} pachorradas thedudely1 you are missing the point,

  785.  
      ofek4430

    It seems like as more as you add more shit the game become worse
    1. The terrain is fucking awful, the mountains look awful and the terrain overall doesnt make any sense
    2. The new buliding system is awful, if you find pressing the left mouse button for an hour is fun, then something is wrong with you.
    3. The new blueprint idea is awful as well
    4. In rust legcy it was fun to farm resources, kill animals, In this version it is not fun at all
    5. You are writting every little thing you did this week, such as fixing few broken materials, just so it will seem like you were doing something this week

  786.  
      CodyCartel1

    Why is everybody bitching? Try finding a game that is developing better than this… you cant. Tru finding a game like this… YOU CANT. This game will be amazing when its finished

  787.  
      major_grubert

    Not happy with where this game is going anymore. I know what you buy into when a game is in Alpha. I was onboard at the beginning of Minecraft, Xenonauts, Project Zomboid, and Planetary Annihilation. I thought Rust would be the same way. Like those other alpha games I thought the game would just continue to add content, fix bugs, and tweak the balance. But no, it’s now turning into something other than what I purchased.
    There was nothing wrong with Legacy other than the shoddy coding. It played great, looked good, and was fun as hell. I’d love to see someone add new content and map locations to the Legacy version. On a well run server there really aren’t many game breaking issues.

  788.  
      slicercrush

    JonathanMichaelOsborne Exactly. Garry, we really need you to take out the blueprints. Please. I agree its going to ruin the game, and what ever happened to risking it all for that one m4 blueprint? With this new system, all the risk and reward will be gone.

  789.  
      VRymba

    I am very disappointed with the  blueprints system…

  790.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    Davis105 But I simply dont understand what th benefit of this steam trade system is. I destroys the atmosphere for me

  791.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    AlexandreMotta Yes I also cant see any reason to implement such a thing besides money

  792.  
      slicercrush

    @[email protected]@[email protected] I don’t like the blueprint idea eathier, but it will probably be taken out after all of the people going againsed it. To be honest i miss how the old rust was built. The new building system is great to be honest, but i hate how they took away alot of the “Survival” aspect. But we all have to remember, THE GAME IS IN ALPHA PEOPLE! I know im going to get hate for posting this, but seriously guys, give it time. This game is community driven.

  793.  
      scecjs

    Davis105 mighty_biscuit Please explain these possibilities?  You can’t just throw a statement like that out there as if it makes sense.

  794.  
      m-p{3}

    According to Rustafied, it can take maybe a day to destroy a Level 6 wall with a rock.

  795.  
      scecjs

    UltimaGlow TheBestJohnEvar Shifter276 Concord95 Please explain these possibilities?  You can’t just throw a statement like that out there as if it makes sense.

  796.  
      james_0434

    Davis105 K Man ALPHA You cant straight up purchase them put of no where you knob

  797.  
      alex1115alex

    LightninLew It doesn’t look like FacePunch will be selling blueprints.
    “You play for a few more hours, you get another trousers blueprint. You sell it on the Steam Market for $0.03”
    You can buy them from players on the Steam Market.
    Even if BP’s are non-marketable, one could still buy CS:GO or TF2 keys for $2.50 each, and then use those as currency…
    Either way, you can pay money to get blueprints.

  798.  
      Concord95

    UltimaGlow
    Are you serious? This innovation will kill all the fucking role system.

  799.  
      AlexandreMotta

    Shifter276 AlexandreMotta The thing is I don’t even get why would they do it. Rust is exactly the kind of game that will be KILLED if you do something like this. The whole point of the game is that it’s brutal, cruel. You have to play smart or you will lose. Or… you can buy stuff.
    It’s so obvious that the backlash will be gigantic and they will lose a lot of sales. Some will try to defend it, but the truth is it will soon be all over the web: “Rust has gone pay to win”.

  800.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    I dont understand what the benefit of this system is. Íf you have to blueprints of the same thing imo you should need to give them directly to the person. This marketplace thing kills the atmosphere for me. 
    But I dont think Garry is greedy. Then he would have made Rust 2 and had let us all pay agian for the new version. On the other side I dont see any other advantage then eraning  a shit load of money

  801.  

    Scellow You don’t have to buy them you know. You can find them yourself, trade them, or have your friend craft it in-game for you.

  802.  
      scecjs

    Terrible blueprint idea.  Blueprints given for time playing the game, rather than exploring/fighting to get them?  Guess it’s time to find empty servers and run some simple macros to farm some $$.  That’s what Rust has always been about right?

  803.  
      UltimaGlow

    TheBestJohnEvar Shifter276 Concord95 Yeah, it gives you new possibilities, it just need a few bugs and glitches patch, Garry, KEEP ON DOING YOUR GOOD WORK, WE TRUST IN YOU!!!!!

  804.  
      Shifter276

    TheBestJohnEvar Shifter276 Concord95 Ah yes who doesnt enjoy mindlessly humping a wall to make it turn different colors just so the guy with a rock cant break in over night.

  805.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    Shifter276 Concord95 The new building system is awesome

  806.  
      m-p{3}

    Scellow They’re not selling blueprints, you get them by playing. Butthurt much..

  807.  
      Shifter276

    Concord95 The game died with the new building system and then it was hacked into bitty pieces when they introduced the blueprint scandal.

  808.  
      MrMoustacheLive

    m-p{3} MrMoustacheLive Survival isn’t a matter of blowing heads and exploding stuff. It can also be a matter of trading and cooperating with others and find some mutual benefits.
    Yes of course. Ok. Then why putting it off the game, and making an marketplace thing (wich is not in-game thing)? In Legacy, we were also able to trade blueprint, doublon, or wathever. IN GAME.

    So what is your argument now? Why the trading system (marketable or not), out of the game, is cool?

    And if you didn’t know, at each transaction in the steam market, Steam and the developpers of the game receive a little commission. That’s why when you sell an item $0.03 you get only $0.01 (but the player who bought it to you, actually payed $0.03) That’s the commission for Steam and the developper team.

  809.  
      Shifter276

    AlexandreMotta The whole thing boils down to profit and money. Rust is now a pay to win game where those who have the big items will have a distinct advantage over the little guy. This completely negates the aspect of a survival of the fittest that most have come to love about Rust. The new building system armor, shit, new blue print selling system, shit. You have done so many great things for this game and then you shit on people who have supported the game since release on Steam. Bravo on lighting a fuse that sheds a new light on the money grab youre aiming for.

  810.  
      Scheich

    LightninLew drbounty you can only sell your items, when you have purchased something real from valve within 6 months or so.

  811.  
      m-p{3}

    Garry Newman I think the global blueprint system is an interesting idea.
    My main concern is how these blueprints are provided. Would they be granted to users by the Steam Inventory system itself? Could a server admin grant those through an airdrop, or will it be tightly controlled?

    If someone has a blueprint, I’m not sure it would be wise to let them sell those for money. If money is involved, is the dev team making money out of this if there’s a transaction between users?

  812.  
      Concord95

    With this update, the game is dead, thanks to the greedy Garry. I hope that in the end you do shit and lose credibility.

  813.  
      Scellow

    LOL, TF2 is free2play, i PAID for rust, why the fuck you want to sell items, and you get a %

    FUCK YOU, ILL ASK FOR A REFUND

  814.  
      LightninLew

    drbounty Did you read this post? They aren’t selling blueprints. You can trade them and sell them yourself on the Steam market. You don’t have to spend a penny to buy something on the Steam market. You can sell trading cards or items. It’s just like trading, but you don’t have to know someone with the item you want.

  815.  
      AlexandreMotta

    There will be an enormous backlash to this decision. Rust was viewed as an innovative game, now people will say “pay to win”.

    Specially since the post is so obviously trying to give excuses and hide what is plain to see: you will be able to play to get ahead of others. In a game like Rust, this is the end.
    “Oh, but you can kill him with a rock and get his stuff.” That’s exactly what the folks from WarZ/Infestation said. We all know how that turned out.

  816.  
      Scheich

    and whats the point of blueprints, when theres no fight over them anymore. What is the next big thing to fight over ???

  817.  
      JonathanMichaelOsborne

    I’m very

  818.  
      AlanMW

    Garry Newman Having only the ability to trade with friends would be nice. Meaning you cannot sell, or buy them!

  819.  
      Scheich

    buying and selling like “that” auction house in d3 ? i hate that. its not a game anymore. and dont give me that its only 1 cent. its annoying bullshit.

  820.  
      m-p{3}

    MrMoustacheLive
    Survival isn’t a matter of blowing heads and exploding stuff. It can also be a matter of trading and cooperating with others and find some mutual benefits.
    And you forgot that line
    The intention isn’t for us to sell blueprints to you, the intention is to treat them like trading cards.

    If you decide to trade a blueprint for money, that’s up to you first, and the money will go towards the person you traded the blueprint with, no Garry. That person has the blueprint for a reason: they either got it by crafting, or traded the blueprint with someone else beforehand.

  821.  
      MattFreise

    xoxo88 This is the best post describing what everyone is trying to say…. Dont fix what isn’t broken…. It was perfect as it was. Well put xoxo

  822.  
      Anima2218

    It may not be a bad idea. But i hope its still a balanced system.

  823.  
      Kailucez

    I like the idea alot

  824.  
      m-p{3}

    NewYorkTragedy You can’t directly buy them out of nowhere. You can trade them from someone who actually created them. Read the blog post carefully.

  825.  
      m-p{3}

    drbounty You don’t purchase them, they are assigned to you when you keep playing. You’re however free to trade them afterwards.

  826.  
      Davis105

    Caultahgew Davis105 I wish he did pal, believe me, this game is gold. But no I just actually think before I write stuff on the internet. :D

  827.  
      Kailucez

    I like this idea a lot I am tired of going and finding blue prints over and over, and being able to trade them is a very good idea

  828.  
      drbounty

    hmm, I also don’t like the idea with those payed blueprints. It really doesn’t give me a better gameplay experience. I think the way it was before was cool. you could also share your blueprints easily in the game. but if they really do those in-game purchases, it will hurt Rust A LOT! please don’t integrate it. no in-game purchases please!

  829.  
      Davis105

    KFCLovar When you read its more responsive in an update, they are doing things all at once not just one at a time, keep that sorta stuff in mind.

  830.  
      AlanMW

    Aceborn I like the idea of no buying involved. the only way to get blueprints is through hours in the game, or a trade from a friend

  831.  
      KFCLovar

    When will the inventory be more responsive? At the moment the inventory takes half a second to react when you move an an object.

  832.  
      Davis105

    MattFreise I get where you guys are coming from, I sorta agree, but I trust the guy hes made a good game so far, and kept us very much in mind as fans, but like I said above its not like hes handing us blueprints and resources for real money, just the means to make it, we will still have to survive, collect and avoid being rapped by bandits and clans to actually gather enough to make this stuff.

  833.  
      mighty_biscuit

    Davis105 mighty_biscuit In that case – Rust is ruined :/

  834.  
      Davis105

    I love how you are all also flipping out about just the blueprint, its not like you are buying resources here people, if this is implemented do you not think Garry is going to come and be like well fuck these kids? No hes going to read all this, see most of you have valid points and he will do something. In my opinion odds are C4 won’t be as easily craftable as it was in the past, and will most likely cost a shit tonne of resources, therefore its not really pay to win if you are buying something you can’t even afford to make in game? Anyone following me here? You’d still have to work your ass off to make the C4.

  835.  
      Caultahgew

    Davis105 lol. Does garry sign your paycheck?  Yes

  836.  
      Necroxon

    AlexandreMotta Caultahgew Dub16Times You can’t just pay to get the blueprints… they talking about making them tradable, not marketable. You would have to find someone willing to trade their rifle blueprint to actually get it, no matter what its worth…

  837.  
      Davis105

    mighty_biscuit Davis105 And thats my point Garry merely shared an idea with us, he never gave us every detail so people here are assuming things that he never even said, maybe C4 will be rare as fuck just like those skins, maybe even rarer?

  838.  
      MrMoustacheLive

    m-p{3} MrMoustacheLive I want to play Rust, not a trading game. If the solution you have is to sell objects to finally buy a big one, that is not a survival game, that is a gestion, trading game. With dollar$$$
    Bye.

    And actually, explosives are planned for the game (cf their trello)

  839.  
      AngryUser

    …just watched “Building Fixes” and “Bare footsteps” animations and sounds…. dear…. its not cool….. i dont like ti :(

  840.  
      NewYorkTragedy

    Please for the love of everything that is right in this world, don’t add the buy-able blueprints. Don’t ruin one of the best survival games on steam.

  841.  
      mighty_biscuit

    Davis105 It depends on how often you can drop one. Those skins are really rare and you can get them only from containers (and key to those cost at least 2$) so thats completly different story

  842.  
      K Man ALPHA

    MattFreise Agree, something about this seems like its taking the Rust out of Rust

  843.  
      Dub16Times

    “This week we’re experimenting with the idea of ruining Rust forever”
    Another classic update

  844.  
      MattFreise

    i dont like they pay for an early advantage idea…. from the beginning the core tenants of rust have meant you have to earn the items you have

  845.  
      Davis105

    Just wanna say another thing, if any of you play CS:GO often, you know that there are skins that cost upwards of 100 USD and all that, and I’ll tell you right now, that if this is put into rust with the blueprint idea, C4 and Rifle blueprints won’t be 15 cents, it will probably be a hundred dollar blueprint so I don’t think many people are willing to pay that much for C4

  846.  
      m-p{3}

    MrMoustacheLive First, there’s no C4 in experimental.
    Second, those blueprints has to be crafted, nobody will get those without effort. The point is that you’ll be able to trade them if you crafted those. Nobody’s getting a free pass. Don’t want to take the time to get those blueprints like everyone else, then trade something for it.

  847.  
      AlexandreMotta

    Caultahgew Dub16Times I agree. There’s no denying: you can pay to have an advantage. Blueprints should be hard to get. Now you can just PAY to be able to forge all the best, rare items. They’re greedy.

  848.  
      Rustypipe

    RIP Rust, greedy bastards..

  849.  
      VaradiGabor

    pay for advantage, pay for raid!

  850.  
      Caultahgew

    xoxo88 Why are you sugarcoating how you feel. Stop being a bitch. This ruins the game.
     Unless you’re a woman.  Then my apologies M’lady.  *tips fedora*

  851.  
      hoseppan

    Garry Newman Personally I would like to see only ingame trading possible or no trading at all. The least you need to do is to let servers to decide the way to go.

    The major part of the fun is the progress when playing. You spend your time to build houses… get resources… friends… weapons… With this trading system you alienate the progress. Think about if you could trade buildings, resources… what would be left in the game. Just killing others, and there are better games for that.
    This trading system is touching the heart of the rust. Therefore the response is so emotional.

  852.  
      rustergroovie

    Making items WORTH something is a notion most people wont understand until it’s in and working. It’s not really pay to win if things cost 15c people. Anyway, why not use the economy system…it’s right there in steam, and the more games that use it, the better.

    CHANGE IS HARD.

  853.  
      MrMoustacheLive

    xoxo88 You are right. The core gameplay of Rust, is the social aspect. If we need to trade something we do it in game, and risk to be killed, etc. The game was fun with that concept, why making a system, that not requiring to play the game, just spending real money in a steam interface, and don’t play the game while we can do that for free and with fun in-game?

    Oh yes I know, garry, money!

  854.  
      Caultahgew

    Dub16Times It’s ruined.  This is it. Game over.

  855.  
      pachorradas

    Davis105 Scruzo what if you dont want to spend, its a thing of  principles. I spent the 20
    on the game and don’t want to be cheated out of any more

  856.  
      m-p{3}

    sakatosan Your reading comprehension skills won’t be missed.

  857.  
      K Man ALPHA

    Davis105 K Man ALPHA By “only way” you mean in addition to trading and purchasing, right?

  858.  
      m-p{3}

    pachorradas thedudely1 You still have to craft stuff in order to get those blueprints. They don’t pop out of nowhere. So if someone is trading it, it’s because he either got it from someone who managed to craft it, or crafted it him/herself.

  859.  
      Davis105

    K Man ALPHA Davis105 Trust me, it will not happen that way, if this blueprint thing goes through, it will be so that the only way to obtain them is either through loot of NPC’s and possibly it might be determined for how many hours you have played in some way, which is fair.

  860.  
      pachorradas

    m-p{3} AlexandreMotta im sure c4 was an example to ilustrate a point,  but that person will be able to craft whatever faster than someone who doesnt spend the money and wants to find stuff himself

  861.  
      Dub16Times

    Wow what a terrible blueprint idea, you’re really trying your best to ruin this game for me, huh?

  862.  
      AngryUser

    Every single game from steam  – works well on my computer….. but RUST experimental/new one – still dont work :((( …. is there anyone else but me that have problem with launching da game ?

  863.  
      xoxo88

    Garry, I am making an account just to comment on this update. 

    I have been playing rust since the beginning, and have been following your updates religiously. Well done. The game is kick ass. Legacy will be a classic, and the new version was winding up to be even better, then this update. 

    Having to farm for resources and blueprints was one of the core elements of rust. Being able to trade your duplicates in game for resources, other blue prints, or to lure unsuspecting prey into a trap, that was the way blueprints were meant to be. 

    Being able to spend a few bucks instead of spending hours farming/trading/banditing takes away the rust feel.

    Hope you think of something else instead of this system, or leave it the way it was in legacy!
    Great job so far, keep up the good work.
    xoxo,
    A solo bandit

  864.  
      m-p{3}

    Pickman226 You didn’t read the blog post, uh?

    The intention isn’t for us to sell blueprints to you, the intention is to treat them like trading cards.

  865.  
      K Man ALPHA

    Davis105 K Man ALPHA I can still imagine room for corruption of some sorts.

  866.  
      Pickman226

    As you can tell I don’t think tf2 and rust works well together

  867.  
      Davis105

    K Man ALPHA Like I said below, if they are turned into cards steam wouldn’t allow Garry to enable admins to spawn them, it would literally be generating money.

  868.  
      pachorradas

    thedudely1 But if you have to spend 10 hours to get a blueprint and DONT WANT to spend money and someone else has it from the start because he doesnt mind it’s unfair

  869.  
      K Man ALPHA

    Seems like the blueprint system could be corrupted by admins or other.
    And, why don’t we all just cough up an extra 99 cents for all the blueprints up front…? Oh wait, that sucks.

  870.  
      avedensky

    Percee avedensky
    We see the best workof artists, whileprogrammers tosmokesomethingin the toilet….

  871.  
      Aceborn

    I don’t need the marketplace blueprint idea. I would always save some blueprints in a crate for my friends.
    One more thing if you really inted to have the blueprints as a helpful thing then don’t allow us to sell or buy blueprints, just trade them.

  872.  
      m-p{3}

    AlexandreMotta 
    Can I get my money back?

    Uh, nope.

  873.  
      AlexandreMotta

    Can I get my money back? Microtransactions suck. Everybody hates it. Now some spoiled rich kid can start the game with a C4 blueprint. I mean, really? Prices will drop very fast and soon enough everybody will be armed to the teeth. This is not what I expected this game to be at all.
    I’m very disappointed. Money, money, money.

  874.  
      Davis105

    TylerEveritt Just so ya know, with the said system of blueprints, based off of how steam works, admins wouldn’t be able to spawn blueprints for themself, steam would never allow the game to do that cause it would literally be spawning steam money in essence, so don’t worry about that.

  875.  
      jordanlang2

    Inventory performance increases would be sweet too.

  876.  
      pachorradas

    AaronBowers Garry Newman +1

  877.  
      AngryUser

    For me game still dont work, no server list,…. must say i wouldnt buy this game NOW, and i regret i bought it earlier :(…. sad couse i liked old rust

  878.  
      avedensky

    Percee avedensky if developer whants  get respect from user. He dons’t show not working version. Many unstable soft more stable thanthis….

  879.  
      VaradiGabor

    purchase an advantage ,nice
    in tf2 dont buy advantage…..

  880.  
      Pickman226

    You damn money greedy bastard garry really dude

  881.  
      AntoineDns

    Garry Newman 
    The idea itself is not bad in my owm opinion. But don’t trade it for real money, maybe create a rust money like simflouze or whatever.  An other important thing, blue print and rust money belong to only one server, if you go to another server you start again with your rock.  Personnaly i won’t spent an cent on anything for this game or any other. The actual system might be good for cosmetic things like TF2 but not for something like blue print.

  882.  
      MrMoustacheLive

    Davis105 Because that is not trading card? This is actual in-game objects, wich is not purely aesthetical like in cs or tf2. This trading thing impacts directly the core gameplay of the game. People who pay, will have C4 instantly, at the beginning of the game if they want, and normal players just have to look for blueprint, wich will be very rare, it is a common sens. Of course it would be rare to find a blue print C4, because now, virtually, it costs $0.15 (not the real value I know)

  883.  
      TyfE

    Aaron13ps TyfE Garry Newman Well it means you aren’t actually paying and there is also still a personal and interactive feel to it, instead of just an anonymous transaction.

  884.  
      Davis105

    bmdensmore I think those are fair concerns, but the admin thing is nothing that Garry or the company could prevent regardless, they can try but if its gunna happen, thats gunna happen you just gotta be smart about where you play yeno’?

  885.  
      Davis105

    thedudely1 People like this, is why rust is a good game, this is a fan, have faith in your game developers people, or else don’t buy the game to begin with. Like honestly its not like Garry is f*****g Electronic Arts.

  886.  
      Jimbofett121

    Okay Garry made Garry’s mod it was amazing so I’m gonna give this game a chance hopes are back up

  887.  
      bmdensmore

    I’m intrigued by the blueprint approach – I’d like to see it in action.  One concern I have is how this will be handled in lieu of multiple hosted servers.  When the game is finally released as a full-version product, will users still be able to host their own servers?  And will there be mods that change the way blueprints are available in-game?  If so, you might find that people gravitate to servers that put less restriction on the availability of blueprints.  And if blueprints are locked down (in game code), then what’s to stop admins from spawning guns/items that normally require BPs and simply giving them away.

    Not sure if those are legit concerns, but the hosted/mod servers do pose an interesting dynamic for such a system.

  888.  
      Scruzo

    and should be no way able, to go new server and have all your prints with you… that sure make it a massive screw all servers. remember steam has 50% dinks with hacked credit cards…  prints should be only for server you FOUND then on, i dont want some dink coming over to our server, and pooof c4ing all, cause he bought that with dads card… game has always been server side only able, makes it so servers are independent of each other

  889.  
      thedudely1

    Everyone just needs to chill out! Seriously, I think half the people complaining about the whole blueprint thing don’t even get how it works! The other half either think you HAVE to buy blue prints or just like complaining. As long as you don’t have to play for 10 hours to find one blue print the system seems great to me! I trust Facepunch and love what there doing, keep up the good work!

  890.  
      Aaron13ps

    Davis105 Just like TF2, I think this is a good idea

  891.  
      sakatosan

    well with in app purchases I am gone have fun all.

  892.  
      Davis105

    No idea why this is such a problem for all of you, it clearly says you don’t HAVE to buy the cards if you don’t want and you will earn them just like everyone else, what you all going to stop using steam beacuse they have trading cards? Its the same bloody thing.

  893.  
      Pickman226

    you should

  894.  
      Pickman226

    I should make a money system in rust and that does not involve real money

  895.  
      TyfE

    AaronBowers Garry Newman Yeah this is why I feel the Steam marketplace is only really good for cosmetic/vanity items. Anything that actually causes you to have an advantage in game just promotes people spending money too much.

  896.  
      Pickman226

    I was going to play rust then I saw this and I said goodbye rust @garry

  897.  
      LazyCircles

    mbneofrance Im with you!

  898.  
      Jimbofett121

    Bro I don’t want this game to turn into a game for marketing

  899.  
      Percee

    avedensky If you’re really a programmer you probably know the words experiment and unstable?

  900.  
      yacuzo

    Garry Newman I’m woried about the long term effect of this. Why would anyone risk co-operating when they are able to make everything themselves? Will co-operation only be desired due to very high resource costs of building/creating? You did state at some point that high cost would be the norm down the road, didnt you?  

    Another element that will be gone is the interaction and risk of having to meet someone ingame to trade knowledge. 

    Ideally I would like to see some cap on how many blueprints you can know at a time, so that you would have to work with at least a few friends to be able to create everything.

  901.  
      rahgots

    Eirikur Garry Newman What if instead of keeping the blueprint forever, the first person to loot your corpse when you die gets to take ONE blueprint from you.

  902.  
      AnsityHD

    MironIonut They clearly do. 90% sure they know more about making games than you.

  903.  
      Caultahgew

    BeardedOrphan Caultahgew
    Yeah, I agree.  The game they started with last year was fine.  They just needed a better global threat than red wolves/bears.  I enjoyed the idea of airdrops that dropped pre-programmed AI that behaved certain ways and would require groups of people to disable them.  Anyway, at this rate, their focus seems to be making money on micro-transactions.
    This direction is terrible.

  904.  
      Aaron13ps

    Jimbofett121 Yea it kind of sucks, but this community could do with a good wash of all the negative people

  905.  
      AnsityHD

    MrMoustacheLive You mad? Or nah?

  906.  
      Aaron13ps

    RickyTheGee Love the enthusiasm for once

  907.  
      Jimbofett121

    Garry your getting a lot of hate probs gonna lose at least 30% of your players just an honest opinion

  908.  
      Aaron13ps

    fluidsc XD Good point. Great comment.

  909.  
      avedensky

    Why add content to the game that can not be run. To make some more bugs?

    Two months ago experemental version  could be run and playning. Every week was getting worse and worse…. May be need fix bug with out of memory, crashing… New item is very good, but what’s the point if nothing works…. I have not slow computer i5 3570, 8GB RAM, 695 Nvidia and i dont normal run game. My many friends have some problem to… I self programmer and i know how make projects. Usually make a stable version, and then add content in growing all the way around in rust?

  910.  
      RickyTheGee

    Its a great idea Garry. Certainly worth a try anyway . Keep up the good work and don’t let the twats put you off.

  911.  
      TyfE

    BeardedOrphan TyfE Garry Newman Yeah I mean I can see the problem. I think AaronBowers really hits the nail on the head actually.

  912.  
      fluidsc

    All the whining about blueprints… I do not see the problem with it… Provided we are not just pumping money into a game we already bought with no mention that this system would ever come into the game. The obvious question is, how will blue prints be acquired by those who do not wish to purchase them?

    The real reason I am here though, is because the building changes are awful. You guys posted all this concept art in the past of how building peices would come together in stages. The peices that are “growing” do not even look remotely close to the finished product. Why not actually put the time and effort into modeling the building sections in the stages they were originally intended to be implemented in? It would look so much better to just have an impassable “half-finished” wood wall (can be broken down obviously but acts like a solid wall in all other respects). I mean, there are only 6 building stages, I assume that would be 2 wood stages, 2 stone stages, and 2 metal stages… 

    Get the building right, make it look like you are building and not magically growing some plywood ;)

  913.  
      BeardedOrphan

    Caultahgew in my opinion they ran away a lot of people from a game with more potential than any other game that ive seen

  914.  
      Davis105

    MironIonut Davis105 Not sure if you are joking here or what, but games aren’t made in a year, not even two and with todays tech, it takes even longer so yeah, its gunna be a while but the fact you are being able to play it this early should be considered a privilege.

  915.  
      Jabba

    Please please please for god sake, and now please do it, why wait ? why make ppl annoyed… You should make so we can call our keys names. Let us engrave text into the keys.. There is nothing more annoying than holding 10+ keys and u need to get rid of most of em – or all, exept ur own house key. then ull have to take 1 key at a time, drop it, see if u can still lock ur house.. do the same with another key, and so on and on… booring and lame way of making it … 

    another thing. There are some things in the current live version that you really really need to fix in order to make the game more playable.. i wont be naming alot of things, not my job, im just saying that you have some very weird priorities :P but its ur choice, ur making the game… they just  dont make any sense P

    looking forward to see some more changes. laters all

  916.  
      Jimbofett121

    You just destroyed rust well lads back to DayZ

  917.  
      JonasNeumann

    God damn, I dont feel good about that blueprint solution, I’d be okay no I even want to find the blueprints they can act as a inventory thing then but pls do net let em drop just by diong nothing thaths…. not what you learn making a pistol from

  918.  
      BeardedOrphan

    TyfE Garry Newman the reason this system upsets me is because it remove the time sync that goes into games and the personal interaction of making trades with people in game. that was my favorite part of rust.

  919.  
      PopeNofun

    Whelp, this was a fun ride, but time to uninstall for a bit. Random drops sounds silly, but I could deal with that. “Getting to pay for” stuff to craft, however, doesn’t sound like a feature to me, it sounds like the reason I avoid f2p 99% of the time. 
    I hope you reconsider Garry.

  920.  
      Davis105

    Scruzo Davis105  Yeah but my point being its cents from each person, if you can’t spare a few cents for Garry and the team I can honestly say you probably aren’t a true supporter of the game, the fact these guys haven’t missed a Friday update says a lot, they care, they haven’t ripped us off thus far, they are not going to. And fuck if that million cents goes into Rust, which legally most of it must, then you shouldn’t care because it will only make the game that much better.

  921.  
      Caultahgew

    wow, you just officially killed an already dying game with the blueprint idea. 

    Congratulations.

  922.  
      pachorradas

    Hallker pachorradas Yes, because people could
    pay to have rifles and c4 and just have to gather the resources while some of
    us who don’t want to spend more money will have to find the blueprints and then
    the resources, It’s a hidden pay to win strategy. An I assume that pistol
    blueprints, for example, will be more plentiful than C4 or rifles (if not the
    whole thing is pointless) , if that is the case it will be even more unfair to
    the people who don’t want to spend money.

  923.  
      MironIonut

    Aaron13ps CitizenVII Pickman226 hey we are talking about free games ?no so shut up

  924.  
      Aaron13ps

    TyfE Garry Newman Interesting idea….

  925.  
      Jimbofett121

    Garry I love rust and had such high hopes for it but you just took those hopes away for the sake of marketing I’d expect more from the maker of Garry’s mod

  926.  
      Aaron13ps

    CitizenVII Aaron13ps Pickman226 lol

  927.  
      TyfE

    Garry Newman I personally think being able to trade and sell blueprints is fine. But if people really are against the actual currency side then perhaps just make them tradeable and not marketable. That’s what I would do. I mean it is the whole P2W argument that is putting people off really.

  928.  
      CitizenVII

    Aaron13ps Pickman226 I wonder how many of the complainers also play DOTA or Hearthstone…

  929.  
      pachorradas

    Garry Newman Yes, because people could
    pay to have rifles and c4 and just have to gather the resources while some of
    us who don’t want to spend more money will have to find the blueprints and then
    the resources, It’s a hidden pay to win strategy. An I assume that pistol
    blueprints, for example, will be more plentiful than C4 or rifles (if not the
    whole thing is pointless) , if that is the case it will be even more unfair to
    the people who don’t want to spend money.

  930.  
      Aaron13ps

    Pickman226 Nooo…. not really

  931.  
      Aaron13ps

    Pickman226 Its really cool seeing these mixed emotions from people who either do not understand or THINK they understand and respond acordingly

  932.  
      Pickman226

    They need to make the game free if they are going to do this

  933.  
      CitizenVII

    Pickman226 Technically, it will be the players charging each other. Get it straight.

  934.  
      MironIonut

    Davis105 whiitch future 2016 ?they are in alpha over a year they started experimental  from six months wich is more complex ,so that can`t be too far…

  935.  
      Pickman226

    I am done with the keeping up with the update stuff such a bad idea they are just trying to make money and being like idiots charging people this

  936.  
      Scruzo

    Davis105  its only Cents?? but when its a million users, that cents turns into big bucks, you stupid or what??

  937.  
      Aaron13ps

    Davis105 I perfectly agree with you… :D

  938.  
      inspirator88

    semanja inspirator88 Not at all. It would still be pay to win. Like I said it involes our real life wallet. If it was some kind of in-game currency, something that we’d actually have to work for in-game then I’d be okay with that because that would actually be a part of the game. And this could be regulated server-wide, something you would have control over if you were the server owner. Don’t be fooled about what they say guys. This will turn out exactly like they did with CS:GO, they are making thousands of dollar off of that shit.

  939.  
      Davis105

    You guys are all freaking out over this blueprint thing when its pretty simple as to how its a great idea, it adds an actually working economy to rust through steam, using that system to form alliances, trade recipies which might require resources and you will have to trade those aswell, and not to mention the very obvious fact that yeno’, Garry being the good guy he is, is allowing us all to make some pocket change on steam through his game, and the amount of time most of us put into rust, it will be worth it when I got an extra five bucks in my wallet to spend on a game I want. And the sounds and shit you guys all gotta chill out, if you honestly think they won’t change those things you are dumb, this is an alpha because they are testing, and seeing what works within the game and there is a lot more to scripting than you all seem to understand, things don’t just work out how we want them too so give them a bit of time, and stop harrassing them for everything they do, this game is revolutionary as it is, not to mention what Garry has said he as planned for this game in the future. 

    All in all, this is good work, your communication is spot on like always and this game is seriously revolutionary to anything out there, maybe not in its current state but I like too look at what it will be in the future and based off your teams progress and what you’ve promised, it will be revolutionary in my books atleast.

    Note: Also if you seriously think that Garry gives a F*** about trading card cents you are all seriously not smart enough to comment here, its cents people, you find that shit on the ground in the middle of a street hes not asking for fucking ten dollars a month so calm down.

  940.  
      AaronBowers

    Garry Newman I think if you end up with a buy/sell system like this you run into one of the following:  
    1) The blueprints are too rare and you gain a great advantage in spending real money to acquire them
    2) The blueprints are too common and the prices are redic like .01 cent and there are 8 million of them in the store.  And people feel obligated to spend a dollar to unlock everything bec its faster than hunting them down

  941.  
      Anima2218

    Garry Newman keep it like it was in legacy, paying to get blueprints will give players a huge advantage over people who don’t pay for blueprints.

  942.  
      TylerEveritt

    Love the progress guys, keep it up. I think blueprints as steam inventory items is smart. I just started throwing blueprints away in legacy, and not picking them up at all at some point. 
    The idea that it makes the game pay to win is dumb. What would be nice would be a way to restrict it maybe to trading with people from your own server. I don’t know how that would work or if it would really matter in the end. What keeps a server owner from spawning 50 blueprints to sell for example? I guess I don’t understand enough about the system to make a call.
    That said, it’s ok to not like this idea. It’s ok to say it ruins it for you. Just make sure you understand the system before you make that decision. I just found out the other day that a game I love allows me to sell items I pick up in game on Steam if I want. Guess what, the game didn’t suddenly become less fun. Chill out.

  943.  
      Jerakal

    Oh my god, did you shrieking children even read the update?

  944.  
      Aaron13ps

    MironIonut Whats wrong?

  945.  
      unosami

    Garry Newman I like the idea as it is presented. Anyone can wait and collect global blueprints slowly, or go kill someone who traded for them and steal their shiny weapon. If rust had little to no player interaction it might pose a problem, but as it is now I think it’s a wonderful idea.

  946.  
      supportert

    this is sarcasm. this is their way of a steady flow of cash (like monthly fee’s)

  947.  
      BeardedOrphan

    Garry Newman I dont lime the idea of being able to have all of the blueprints immediately, much of the rust environment i enjoyed was people who had gotten those blueprints ruling the land and the lower people sneaking in and looting as much as they can in an attempt to get to the level of the other players, that is all lost once your able to buy and sell blueprints. and plus it removes in game interaction, i cant tell you how many times me and my friends have set up a meeting ground for a blueprint trade off, that all disappears also.

  948.  
      Aaron13ps

    MironIonut rahgots Yea why dont you gary?

  949.  
      CitizenVII

    Garry Newman I think you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t. People are going to complain. I guess I play too many “pay to win” games (MtG, Warhammer, Hearthstone) to care about it. What’s the problem with having an option to buy something? It’s not like you’re selling resources or “god modes” or whatever.

  950.  
      sageiscool923

    AaronBowers Scruzo Garry Newman Agreed

  951.  
      Aaron13ps

    supportert GIVE RUST A MONTHLY FEE ARE YOU CRAZY!?

  952.  
      AaronBowers

    Scruzo Garry Newman People should not be able to use items(blueprints) from server to server, thats where DayZ messed up.

  953.  
      MironIonut

    rahgots always temporary ,like they change it 3 times now lol why don`t use from legacy game over…

  954.  
      Aaron13ps

    Scruzo Garry Newman I feel like the one way was stupid because it was server sided AND OR that you kept them when you died

  955.  
      supportert

    what a horrific bad idea indeed. i understand why you do this. but just give rust a monthly fee, and not try to hide it in a trade card system.

  956.  
      Hallker

    pachorradas Hallker No, pay to win is if anybody can get unfair advantage over you using money. This is just classic microtransaction. And if you believe that blueprints make you better player, or better shooter you play wrong game here.

  957.  
      Aaron13ps

    rahgots Its temporary get over it XD

  958.  
      Scruzo

    Garry Newman old way was best, you find a print, its yours, and your stuck with it, that simple… if you not find it ingame it self, then no way should be able to pay any

  959.  
      rahgots

    Sorry but bare feet don’t sound like that. This always annoyed me in games, no matter what you’re wearing it always sounds the same.

    As a barefooter, I know it makes almost zero sound except on gravel when you walk/run barefoot.

  960.  
      Aaron13ps

    CitizenVII I agree with this too

  961.  
      BeardedOrphan

    Ive nevere been able to say that i disliked one of the ideas that they have implemented into the game but i can honestly say now that i will never play on a server with global inventory set to on. that takes so much fun out of the game its crazy.

  962.  
      MironIonut

    Aaron13ps like animals no they said theat if does not catch to people they will return to zombiez..fuck it… :))

  963.  
      CitizenVII

    I’m not only excited to see the blueprint trading system work, I’m excited to see a whole bunch of toxic players rage-quit the game. I particularly like the fact that you’re allowing servers to definite whether they’ll use the global or local inventories.

  964.  
      Eirikur

    Garry Newman I feel that would be more fair.

  965.  
      sageiscool923

    Garry Newman yeah

  966.  
      pachorradas

    Hallker pachorradas no, its a pay to win, you take hours to find a blueprint (if you even find it) or you buy it and start building your thing in less time than other people

  967.  
      Aaron13ps

    Garry Newman Garry I think its a great idea
    I say give it a try XD

  968.  
      Garry Newman

    Would you like the blueprint system better if we didn’t let you trade or sell your duplicate blueprints?

  969.  
      sageiscool923

    Not much this update ;/

  970.  
      Eirikur

    The selling blueprint part sounds like the game will become a pay to win.
    I mean, the people who are ready to pay for their blueprints will obviously have an easier time getting better gear than a person who wants to find their blueprints in game. Who thought this was a good decision?

  971.  
      MironIonut

    finally i get it .it`s Face Punch  ,and now K.O. :(

  972.  
      semanja

    inspirator88 c4 will dont cost only 20cents at all, imagine do you have one bp c4 to sell and the price is 20$ that way do you like? :P

  973.  
      Aaron13ps

    GOD everyone, give it a chance… if its is bad it will probably be removed!

  974.  
      GeorgePsaro

    i dont like new rust anymore garry
    !!

  975.  
      Aaron13ps

    mbneofrance I LIKE YOUR ATTITUDE SUN

  976.  
      Aaron13ps

    Earthspeed I agree…

  977.  
      mbneofrance

    Guys !!! Calm down about blueprint buying system ! : ) I don’t know either if it’s a good or a bad idea… I just want to say “Let’s try” !!! Eat a butt ;)

  978.  
      MrMoustacheLive

    “You sell it on the Steam Market for $0.03 – and you also sell two hats you got from playing TF2 for $0.12. With the $0.15 you buy a C4 blueprint.”

    Nope your wrong, you will not get $0.15, but more like $0.10. You should know that Steam took a little amount of money for each transactions you make (sell or buy), or maybe you fake to didn’t know that, because you take a slightly share on that commission, and you like that. Because why making a system out of the game, no gameplay, that add no fun but for money. You destroy your game for money.

    I’ve uninstall Rust, and I will never ever play again your shitty game. Go to hell.

  979.  
      Aaron13ps

    inspirator88 I dont feel this way at all…

  980.  
      Scruzo

    Aaron13ps Scruzo  umm that would make it a pay to win. ROFL if you pay to unlock shit, thats a pay to win, 1 hour ingame with daddies credit card, and the 12 year olds, can be king of the hill

    its about doing the time, to get some where…

  981.  
      inspirator88

    I don’t really like the blueprints idea. This makes the game basically pay to win. My buddy could just spend 20 cents on a c4 blueprint, and I have to go find one which could take hours. How is that fair? And to say that this would be part of the game is stupid, this is not part of the game, because it involves our personal real life wallet. It’s pay to win nothing less than that.

  982.  
      GeorgePsaro

    seriously another pay 2 win gmae that i have already paid 20 dollars?
    bye bye new rust welcome back legacy

  983.  
      Hallker

    pachorradas Hallker You obviously missed the part where people can still find them all so you don’t have to spent a penny. Also you can actually get some money on this. It’s quite great idea.

  984.  
      AaronBowers

    pachorradas I agree, looks like it will be an option to include “global inventory” on your server, which is a GOOD thing. Lets get real who is gonna use this global inventory crap on their server?

  985.  
      MironIonut

    don`t even bother to watch the development they don`t know what they`re doing really

  986.  
      Earthspeed

    Looks awesome!

  987.  

    Please tell me there will be a client update today. The few fixes that did get put in are needed badly.

  988.  
      Aaron13ps

    MironIonut lol

  989.  
      Aaron13ps

    kvlasic Yea :D

  990.  
      kvlasic

    Shooting and melee system is pretty bad. I hope they’ll fix that.

  991.  
      MironIonut

    fuck it legacy forever

  992.  
      pachorradas

    Hallker pachorradas yes, can you?

  993.  
      Aaron13ps

    Scruzo You didnt read you idiot

  994.  
      pachorradas

    Oh and if they can be kept
    between server its also bad idea because even though they still have to gather
    the resources its less work than someone who has to gather the resources +
    gather the blueprint

  995.  
      Scruzo

    ya it now makes the game a Pay to Win game, totally lame on all accounts, way to go Garry. this makes me with 700 hours plus ingame, not want to play now.,  all this makes is a Credit card pirate game, where a newbie with only a hour ingame, can have all… since he has dads card handy

  996.  
      Hallker

    I don’t see reason why people complain about blueprints it’s wonderful idea.

  997.  
      Hallker

    pachorradas Can you read? or Can’t?

  998.  
      Pickman226

    I agree

  999.  
      Shifter276

    Blue prints for sale, attn Rust the new money hoarding game to hop aboard Lord Gabens wallet train, choo choo mother fuckers choo choo

  1000.  
      pachorradas

    I have never
    complained about ANYTHING in the development of this game but the whole
    buying blueprints is a HORRIBLE idea. I already paid 20$ for this game and I don’t
    want to pay ANYTHING ELSE for extra content. BAD BAD BAD idea

  1001.  
      Willl30

    Wow that blueprint system looks… Really bad. Hopefully they make it work somehow

  1002.  
      Pickman226

    Blue prints are a waste goodbye

  1003.  
      TheBestJohnEvar

    Pickman226 Bye see ya

  1004.  
      DamienRideout

    picadzo  Cya! lol this new system looks awesome. XD explain how they shot themselves in the foot with it please?

  1005.  
      Pickman226

    I hate this bye RUST this ruins the game so much I don’t want to have to but things to enjoy a game that I buy for 20 dollars

  1006.  
      picadzo

    Ok, RUST you just shot yourself in your feet with the blueprints idea… goodbye RUST, I’m going for Life is Feudal.

  1007.  
      metabletforres

    Please fix animals running into rocks & trees.

  1008.  
      DamienRideout

    I like how they are going to do blueprints sounds fun and helpfull

  1009.  
      lisznor

    Hellllllll Yeah new Devblog

  1010.  
      Cwevans

    please, for the love of god. even out the resources

  1011.  
      cristian luchetta

    good

  1012.  
      apteryx1

    Good boys

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